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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#30376: Dec 5th 2015 at 7:03:54 PM

[up][up] did he do it by switching bodies with the frog alien guy beforehand or by using a translator off of Jaco's ship?

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#30377: Dec 5th 2015 at 7:14:12 PM

He tricked Tagoma into saying the trigger word for his technique.

edited 5th Dec '15 7:14:33 PM by Cortez

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#30378: Dec 5th 2015 at 7:51:53 PM

Okay, I'm watching some more Super, and there's this actually really funny gag in episode 16 where Supreme Kai thinks that Elder Kai is peeping on someone and he's actually watching two rhinoceros beetles fight, and Elder Kai is confused why Supreme Kai didn't want him to watch.

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superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#30379: Dec 5th 2015 at 10:21:42 PM

Hey, since Emperor Pilaf showed up in the same movie as Frieza, wouldn't have it been hilarious to see him and his cronies end up working for Frieza out of fear? I mean just imagine the interactions between the two.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#30380: Dec 5th 2015 at 10:25:57 PM

You're right, it wouldn't have been hilarious.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#30381: Dec 5th 2015 at 10:28:01 PM

We already had something similar with King Piccolo.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#30382: Dec 5th 2015 at 11:02:59 PM

I'm still shocked King Piccolo spared them.

Then again, they're saved by their slapstick status.

superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#30383: Dec 5th 2015 at 11:28:39 PM

Think Frieza could do the same? Doubt it.

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#30384: Dec 6th 2015 at 4:02:43 AM

Besides, what could they even offer Frieza? It's not like they have any skills.

King Piccolo at least had the fact that they freed him to be thankful for.

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#30385: Dec 6th 2015 at 5:02:29 AM

King Piccolo at least had the whole "they actually know what the modern world map looks like" thing going on for keeping them alive. Yes, he could've mapped it out himself or looked for other henchmen, but it would've been a hassle when he had perfectly willing (after he threatened them) servants already.

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#30386: Dec 6th 2015 at 6:26:26 AM

So here's a question. If any of you could have decided on how the Resurrection of F's arc played out, what changes would you make? Personally I would have Freiza amass an army more than 1000 soldiers(in the billions, because taking over hundreds of planets shouldn't only take 1000) and make them attack several cities around the globe, to explain why the other stronger characters aren't around. Since they are in cities, they can't fight at full strength.(can they even revive them again?) Freiza would be trained by Vados, who is the only person that could have made Freiza strong enough to fight Goku.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#30387: Dec 6th 2015 at 6:34:39 AM

Fun fact: A soldier on Raditz's level can conquer a planet single handedly.

So having an army of 'billions' would make zero sense. He doesn't need an army of even tens of thousands. The Ginyu force can probably conquer a planet in a matter of minutes. Dodoria and Zarbon probably don't take too much longer themselves. Teams of Saiyans generally did it in one night (Full Moon and all).

A couple thousand soldiers with a powerlevel of 1000+ is not only enough to take over the galaxy, it's enough to also maintain control over it. 'Cause a single one of those soldiers is enough to put down most forms of organized rebellion.

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#30388: Dec 6th 2015 at 7:26:16 AM

No, a soldier at Raditz level cannot conquer an entire planet, he can exterminate all the macrofauna of a planet, and even then, that's just a planet like Earth. The problem with Freeza's "Empire" is that those planets have already been depopulated of weaklings and settled by other beings, and given the success of the results, stronger beings. Remember Abo and Kado, in 13 years or so they've become as strong as Freeza individually, and have the power to fuse. That's not of any concern to Goku, the other saiyans, Majin Buu, maybe not Piccolo, maybe not even 18, but if that's the kind of opposition the Freeza force is up against, Raditz aint gonna cut it, not even soldiers as powerful as full moon Raditz. The patrol might be playing a role too. They've got weapons that can destroy cities and depopulate entire worlds too and Jaco already showed he could smack down a half dozen Freeza soldiers with ease. A whole squad of him could be a problem, now imagine a regiment.

And a thousand soldiers not being enough? That was kind of the point, they were losing so hard they decided to revive Freeza.

Still, I do like the idea of Majin Buu, 18, Goten and Trunks fighting Freeza's forces at other cities, if only to see Buu's devilish grin again before tears through thousands of mooks.

edited 6th Dec '15 7:37:30 AM by IndirectActiveTransport

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#30389: Dec 6th 2015 at 7:31:12 AM

Freiza's soldier trying to invade and conquer the entire Toriko earth would be hilarious to watch.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#30390: Dec 6th 2015 at 8:24:56 AM

Yeah. It seems that Frieza soldiers (especially the low rank ones) aren't much to look at.

Hell, Master Roshi can fight against them, and Jaco (who's probably incompetent) wiped the floor with a lot of them as well.

Guys like the Ginyu Force, Zarbon, Dodoria, and Vegeta eventually, were the exceptions.

In fact, the average warrior on most alien worlds may not be much stronger then some of the more powerful Z-Warriors. Possibly even weaker.

It has been said that most of the stronger guys in Frieza's army (including Frieza himself) were mutants.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#30391: Dec 6th 2015 at 8:42:26 AM

Actually, Raditz can very well conquer a planet on his own. If he, say, showed up on our Earth tomorrow, called himself "absolute ruler" and vaporized a few large cities to prove his point, well... we'd stop arguing with him about whether or not he rules the world pretty damn quickly.

And Raditz is a weakling, a very low level mook.

Don't think every planet's like Namek, which has strong fighters. Don't think every planet's like Earth, where there's obscenely strong fighters running around. Most planets? Well, I do remind you that a single Saiyan baby was considered enough to erradicate every living being on any given planet. Conquering a world is significantly easier than erradicating every living being in it.

In most worlds, a Freeza Soldier with a powerlevel of 2000 is basically an unstoppable juggernaut that will shrug off all of your guns, bombs and assorted energy weaponry, and then throw a glowing grenade at your capital that leaves it as a smoking crater in the ground. Most people will surrender very, very quickly when confronted with such a being.

And as for the Patrol... well, they could be a problem, for sure, but the average world sure as hell isn't. The end result of antagonizing Freeza's Army, though, would be to get one of the stronger members to come and wipe out your civilization, if not blow up the planet/artificial habitat/space station/whatever you're living on from under you to save time.

edited 6th Dec '15 8:46:31 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#30392: Dec 6th 2015 at 8:44:43 AM

Yeah, Namekians were noted for their above average power levels. Not as high Saiyans but they also had the mysticism going on for them. In their heyday conquering them probably wouldn't be as simple as sending a thousand grunts to do the work.

edited 6th Dec '15 8:51:35 AM by LSBK

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#30393: Dec 6th 2015 at 8:49:53 AM

Conquering Namek before the drought that killed off the Warrior Clan (of which only Nail remains) would've almost certainly been a job for the Ginyu Force. And even if most of those Warriors were at Nail's level, which they could be, we don't know... well, Ginyu would've still wiped the floor with the entire planet's habitants with one of his hands tied behind his back and doing trick beer pong shots with the other.

I know that their powerlevels are laughably low compared to the heroes, but you have to remember: These people conquered the galaxy despite their strategy amounting to "throw mooks at the problem until it fixes itself".

edited 6th Dec '15 8:50:03 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#30394: Dec 6th 2015 at 8:52:10 AM

Hell, Master Roshi can fight against them, and Jaco (who's probably incompetent) wiped the floor with a lot of them as well.

In-Universe though, Roshi is the 4th or 5th strongest human on the planet, and immortal. I'm starting to think that if you ripped off his skin, you'd find machine parts from an alternate timeline.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#30395: Dec 6th 2015 at 10:08:07 AM

Even Cui was well above average; he was ranked as a "super-elite" in the PTO, same as Vegeta.

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#30396: Dec 6th 2015 at 10:30:04 AM

[up] As was Appule as well.

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MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#30397: Dec 6th 2015 at 10:31:23 AM

By the way, it got confirmed that Toei did fix many of the keyframes of the already-infamous episode 5 of Dragonball Super for the Blu-Ray release.

As for this week's episode, Piccolo's lines from Dragonball Z Abridged QUICKLY came to mind, about teaching Gohan to dodge...

"I'm still working on it."

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#30398: Dec 6th 2015 at 11:06:30 AM

TFS mocking Gohan's inability to dodge has become even more hilarious now.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#30400: Dec 6th 2015 at 12:06:29 PM

Gohan only fights well when he loses his temper and goes full on berserk.

The main limiter on Gohan's power is Gohan himself.

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