Anyway, having the Dragons trying to "take back" the wish does make more sense than what GT did from a "bad karma" perspective.
If evil actions created bad karma and undoing the "consequences" of those actions left bad karma around without the attachment and it had to go "somewhere", it would make most sense for the physical form of that bad karma to take it back wouldn't it?
My whole problem with trying to use "karma" to justify overuse of the dragon balls is, as I already said, the last arc showed the afterlife itself was broken. The villains escaped from hell and you're blaming the protagonists for being irresponsible? It wasn't some monster breaking hell, it wasn't some accident on the behalf of the ogres, the souls supposed to be cleansed for reincarnation just broke out, with an android no less. The universe is fundamentally flawed. Addressing why that happened and how to fix it is the only logical place for GT to go after that. I suggested manipulative creatures trying to guide creation to their liking because Dragon Ball is a fighter series.(it's also why I prefer the English dub's "negative energy", as it doesn't immediately draw attention to the fact the arc is built around a concept they just murdered in the last arc)
Another reason I'd hold off on a fic is that Majin Buu is kind of important to my pitch and the optimist in me is still waiting to see what interesting things they do with Uub and Buu. At first I was skeptical when I heard Buu was not Bibidi's creation but I never did like the fact they used "created death machine" twice in a row and once I got time to actually think about the implications of what Buu really is, I loved it.
Buldogue's lawyerNot sure.
I guess since they were made by Nameless, then provided the person you're trying to wish dead isn't stronger than Nameless Namek, then yes, they could.
Though all the balls can be used for such wishes for the same reason I think, and with the same caveats.
One Strip! One Strip!Granted, given that Nameless and GT Piccolo are one and the same, a wish on those could probably kill anyone except a main character or arc villain.
"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — UltimatepheerSo in other words, nobody actually important.
Well, I suppose Videl and Mr. Satan are screwed.
One Strip! One Strip!And Krillin/Yamcha/Tien, and the Androids, and probably Pan.
"Stronger than Piccolo" isn't something a lot of people can claim at that point.
"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — UltimatepheerWhen he fought Baby possessed Gohan...who may or may not have gone mystic ultimate.
edited 2nd Dec '15 8:50:07 PM by randomness4
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.If Piccoro went Super Buu level power, he'd literally be stronger than everyone.
Kid Goku(GT) is weak as dinosaur bones.
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice....and that is obviously whack, isn't it? He was still in base form taking on both F and C, the only logical conclusion is HFIL makes you weaker.
If you're actually dead.
edited 2nd Dec '15 9:28:08 PM by randomness4
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.Not when his base form is supposed to be around the power he had as a Super Saiyan 3 in the Buu Saga, and even then he should be stronger than that during the Super 17 Saga, since his Super Saiyan form was actually able to put up a fight against Super 17 when Majuub couldn't, when beforehand Majuub was stronger than Goku as a Super Saiyan 3.
Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!Base GT Goku is fucking crazy powerful, what are you talking about? He's at least stronger than some form of Majin Boo, and Cell and Freeza were said to be a lot stronger than they were in life.
He also only needs his base form to fight Oob, during their "rematch" which should mean Oob had reached or surpassed Pure Boo's level.
As well as that. GT Goku starts out absurdly strong and then decides to take it Up To Eleven.
edited 3rd Dec '15 12:19:40 AM by Saiga
GT Goku is absurdly strong. In base he's stronger that a guy who was stronger than Buu and it only goes up from there. Then there's an power up he gets in between Baby and Super 17 saga's where he goes from being weaker than Majin Uub as SSJ3 to being stronger than him as SSJ1. And there's of course him toying with powered up versions of Cell and Freeza.
GT power-scale is all out of wack.
No they really didn't, but they didn't even have a good reason for why they existed either.
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.

Eh, more like half of slug person.