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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#29876: Nov 29th 2015 at 1:50:51 AM

Wait, Future SS Trunks was weaker than Future base Gohan? Future Gohan wasn't that strong himself!

Also, to anyone saying that higer SS forms are always stronger than lower ones I just respond: lol Ragegeta.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#29877: Nov 29th 2015 at 1:58:45 AM

[up][up][up] that, uh, wasn't even a Flat "What".

And what I was saying, is that all your defenses of the absorption scene rely on subjective interpretations

Which makes it not clearly objectivd as you tried to claim

[up] as a kid, before Gohan died. Once he grew up and started wielding the sword he was somewhere around the same ballpark of strength.

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#29878: Nov 29th 2015 at 2:31:32 AM

I think this conversation has gone as far as it can. Nobody involved changed their stance and no side has definitive evidence proving their argument. Change the topic?

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#29879: Nov 29th 2015 at 3:51:41 AM

Man, I'm digging the Super version of Tagoma.

I also noticed he's no longer respectful towards Sobert.

edited 29th Nov '15 4:23:23 AM by Cortez

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#29880: Nov 29th 2015 at 5:07:57 AM

SUPER THREE PAGE JUMP, GO!

So a few pages back Saiga mentioned that Dragon Ball could handle succession well...

And it got me thinking: Dragon Ball as a 'dynasty' series? Coulda worked, methinks.

We just go through the generations of the Son family.

First generation hero would've been Goku, the second Gohan, the third Pan, and her child would've been the next, and so on and so forth.

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#29881: Nov 29th 2015 at 5:09:16 AM

Going by the preview Looks like Ginyu will be taking over Tagoma's body.

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#29882: Nov 29th 2015 at 5:15:24 AM

Anyone else thinking Vados and Champa helped Freiza in his training? This can easily be revealed when Beerus and Whis noticed something off with Freiza(maybe sense god ki on them). Even if Freiza never trained in his life, making such a jump in four months is ridiculous, training with Vados and Champa however would make it easier to swallow, since Vegeta managed to reach Goku's level(whose base form is almost as strong as SSG) in half a year.

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#29883: Nov 29th 2015 at 6:09:33 AM

And in this week's Dragonball Super... Well, THAT was an unexpected change. So Tagoma living instead of getting offed by Frieza like in the movie gives us THIS guy? Oh wow.

Also, could ANYONE have predicted that twist at the end? Seriously, we're getting GINYU back too?

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#29884: Nov 29th 2015 at 6:37:52 AM

t really is cliché when bad guys turn into good guys, but it just feels great drawing it!

...this is a cliche?

SUPER THREE PAGE JUMP, GO!

Legendary four-page jump. Unfortunately, jumping that far has rendered my existence non-canonical.

Super Saiyan states and Goku explaining them

Other than the self-parodying nature of the Buu Saga, Goku's decision to explain the Super Saiyan states to Buu works given how he was stalling for time. I mean, there was actually a reason for the protagonist to talk during a fight, to have a really long powerup, and to literally chew the scenery, I love it.

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#29885: Nov 29th 2015 at 6:39:14 AM

[up]Well, you've gotta admit, it DOES happen a lot.

And I never thought about the SS3 transformation scene that way, heheh. That makes the scene even better than it already was.

edited 29th Nov '15 6:40:12 AM by BaffleBlend

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#29886: Nov 29th 2015 at 6:42:14 AM

It happens occasionally in other series. It happens with ALL the main characters in this one.

Edit: one of the comments on that video kills me:

Trunks: "I-I should go. I don't want to get yelled at again."

Goku: "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"

I'm pretty sure everyone was getting yelled at.

edited 29th Nov '15 6:51:18 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#29887: Nov 29th 2015 at 7:57:48 AM

And what I was saying, is that all your defenses of the absorption scene rely on subjective interpretations

Which makes it not clearly objectivd as you tried to claim

[awesome]

zsmg Since: Jul, 2011
#29888: Nov 29th 2015 at 8:12:15 AM

...this is a cliche?
Yes this is known as the JUMP system in Japan. Or JUMP formula if you want a more appropriate translation.

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#29889: Nov 29th 2015 at 8:21:15 AM

Re: Dragon Ball as a dynasty series

So a knockoff of Jojo's Bizzare Adventures?

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#29890: Nov 29th 2015 at 8:35:30 AM

Dragon Ball predated JoJo by about a year or two.

Also, even if it takes five freaking minutes, I love that SSJ3 transformation. It's glorious.

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#29891: Nov 29th 2015 at 9:52:20 AM

[up] Oh, it did?

Huh. I did not know that.

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#29892: Nov 29th 2015 at 10:09:22 AM

Sorry. Dragon Ball predates JoJo by about three years. Dragon Ball started its run in 1984 while JoJo started in 1987.

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#29893: Nov 29th 2015 at 10:12:16 AM

Well, I'd say delete Dragon GT from history but since we're only allowed one change, I'd change Super's padding into plot lines we haven't seen before in between the three movies. Show You Son Goku And His Friends Return, new plots happen. Show Battle Of Gods, new plots happen. Show Revival Of F, new plots happen.

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#29894: Nov 29th 2015 at 1:00:59 PM

If I could change one thing...huh...

Can I somehow remove Zenkai? It's my least favourite concept in the entire series. It made powerups way too easy. At least characters had to train to get new levels of Super Saiyan.

And on the newest Super episode having Tagoma being this powerful is actually really cool. All I want is for the B-Team to actually beat him, and not just struggle until Goku and Vegeta arrive and oneshot him, or something. This is the kind of "villains with appropriate tiers of power" we were all wanting!

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#29895: Nov 29th 2015 at 1:50:16 PM

If I could change one thing it'd be Freeza being as powerful as he was in the Namek Saga and Freeza would only have two forms.

We didn't need 4 different forms with percentage states in the last form.

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#29896: Nov 29th 2015 at 1:51:04 PM

By the way, I know that the manga has kind of branched off on its own and all, but the latest spoilers point to interesting (or not, depending on how you look at the revelation) points that Super might go into.

Specifically, it shows that Champa is considering using Saiyans from his universe to make up for the lack of humans for his team.

edited 29th Nov '15 1:51:45 PM by MyssaRei

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#29897: Nov 29th 2015 at 2:03:18 PM

[up]That chapter is already out. And it's not to make up for a lack of humans, it's because Beerus has saiyans fighting for him.

edited 29th Nov '15 2:03:55 PM by LSBK

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#29898: Nov 29th 2015 at 2:17:10 PM

[up]

I have to admit though, Piccolo's reactions in the chapter were golden.

"Wait, I'm only finding this out NOW?!?"

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#29899: Nov 29th 2015 at 2:31:23 PM

Champa wanting Saiyans on his team is mainly because Beerus will have two Saiyans on his.

The question is what does that mean exactly? Does Planet Vegeta still exist in universe 6?

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#29900: Nov 29th 2015 at 2:34:57 PM

So like, what was up with Krillin being scared to fight Freeza's grunts? Like i get they were giving him a mini arc, but this is the same guy who was willing to fight guys like Nappa, the Ginyu Force, and even Freeza even though he knew he was fighting outside his weight class.


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