The only thing I could think to change is to tone down the misogyny and make Roshi less of a sex criminal. At the very least give him restraint around underage girls.
I don't particularly mind the erratic by-the-seat-of-your-pants style.
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!I actually like that a lot, and find it really unique as far as Shonen manga go.
My one change would be to have Gotenks defeat Super Buu as a Super Saiyan 3 right there in the Hyperbolic time chamber. It would continue the trend of Goku's kids saving the world as a part of his plan, and allow Gotenks to actually justify his existence and the time spent on him.
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And I'm glad it did, but it would have been better to never go there in the first place.
I don't think I'd like that change very much. It's too easy, and you'd have to cut everything Gohan is doing on the side which makes the plot too straightforward. Goku suggests fusion, they have a slight hiccup with Boo not waiting, but the RoSaT solves that and fusion wins.
I feel Gotenks is entertaining and funny enough to justify it even without him succeeding.
edited 28th Nov '15 11:04:22 PM by Saiga
I'm saying that is utter bullshit. It never "became" a fault, it always was one that people just hadn't acknowledged previously. I can understand why it is that way, but I will absolutely not refrain from criticizing it.
It was only acceptable because the time and place was unacceptable. That isn't worth shit for me.
edited 28th Nov '15 11:08:18 PM by Saiga
I don't think Roshi being a pervert is an issue. It can be funny if done right.
But asking a girl to flash her panties, spying on people, ect., is not doing it right.
Again, the Abridged series does a good job keeping him in line without totally neutering him. Though skipping Dragon Ball probably helps in that regard.
And by misogynistic I just mean things like the "get back in the kitchen" approach to 18 and Gine in recent media mostly. Granted, that's outside the original manga.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
edited 28th Nov '15 11:10:25 PM by Anomalocaris20
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!Being part of a culture that accepts that does not excuse also accepting that. People can think for themselves.
That view basically says the majority would be right, regardless of their views. Whether inherent morality exists is a debatable concept however I would definitely say that view is wrong.
Hell, Japan still doesn't really see those things as wrong, it's just censored what is shown in children's media. That doesn't make it any more justified.
edited 28th Nov '15 11:23:18 PM by Saiga
I feel Gotenks is entertaining and funny enough to justify it even without him succeeding.
It's good to hear another opinion. To be honest, the only other choice I could come up with is removing the Potara. This would force Goku and Vegeta to use the Dance.
edited 28th Nov '15 11:39:52 PM by VeryMelon
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I also like this idea, because I really don't like the potara.
If "Gogeta" uses Super Saiyan 3, you can even justify the de-fusion pretty easily as they'd have less time fused.
It'd also feel like so much of an Ass Pull because the dance is an established thing by the time Goku and Vegeta use it. And then Gotenks is actually more important for basically breaking in the concept before it's actually used to accomplish something.
edited 28th Nov '15 11:33:15 PM by Saiga
It's not a question of whether the society of the time deemed it acceptable, or if there's some kind of objective standard of acceptability.
I deem it unacceptable, therefore to me it is bad and I would change it if I were in a position to do so.
edited 28th Nov '15 11:36:04 PM by Anomalocaris20
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!Yes. It's also the cause of their being a wait time between fusions - normal fusion can be re-done right away after it wears off, Super Saiyan 3 fusion lasts 5 minutes and creates a 1 hour period before it can be done again.
Which would explain why Goku and Vegeta couldn't instantly resolve things with Pure Boo by fusing again, if that were the only method.
I feel this change would be very good with the series, and aside with the problem with Gohan (both how he's treated and how he could easily be used to solve things) it would basically fix the post-potara portion of the arc. Definitely more preferable to the version we got.
edited 28th Nov '15 11:36:43 PM by Saiga

I have to say, having Piccolo almost take out Babidi was pretty cool, even if it wasn't much of a fight.
what do you mean I didn't win, I ate more wet t-shirts than anyone else