Who would win? (Comic book edition)

^^ I'd say probably (maybe) Cassandra Cain. Both have amazing observational skills and are excellent at reading and countering opponents, but in her best moments Cassie's like a machine when it comes to that sort of thing.

Though actually, I get the feeling the fight would end up being an hour of both of them circling each other waiting for the other to make a mistake.

This is kind of a crossover Who Would Win, but was mostly brought upon by the realization that "damn, is it just me or do these guys look alike?" and then the thought that they might actually counter each other's abilities quite well. But, in any case...

Deathstroke vs Big Boss (Metal Gear Solid). No minions, no vehicles (so DS can't call for Titans East or anything, and Big Boss can't bring in a regiment of soldiers or ride in on a Metal Gear or anything), but both are allowed the use of any non-broken weapons they've can use.

I'd say Deathstroke just because I like him better seeing as he and Big Boss are pretty much equal in terms of weapons and training, with Big Boss maybe having the edge strength wise.

How about Howard the Duck vs the Penguin from Batman.

The Penguin's smarter than most give him credit for, has a moderately impressive arsenal even by comic-book standards (assuming we're going with the weapons-dealer version, anyhow), and has a gang. Howard, meanwhile, is only trapped in a world he never made. Well, that and despite his size, he appears to have the strength of a reasonably fit adult human male.

That being said, given the flat-out weird crap that Howard has survived over the years, Howard the Duck.

Nextwave vs. the JLI

The JLI were a lot funnier, but Nextwave would probably just splode them. Because that's what they do.

Goliath (Clint Barton) vs Giant Woman (Janet Van Dyne).

I say Checkmate wins...because? I really do not know much about them, I'm just have not gotten over how a foreign entity like S.H.I.E.L.D. attacked a USA soldier on USA soil over a law that had not even been passed yet and did not cause a whole international incident in Civil War.

One day I may forgive the sin that was civil war but I will not forget it! Janet can fly and shoot stingers so I guess she wins.

Wonder Woman vs The Fantastic Four

Wonder Woman still needs to breathe, right? Sue puts a force field in her throat and chokes her out. Alternatively, if her insides aren't invulnerable, she could just make a force field in her brain and expand it. Otherwise, she'd beat any of the other three one on one, but definitely not together, because it looks like Sue would solo her.

Spider-Man vs. Plastic Man

edited 31st Jul '13 10:04:14 PM by RedM

Plastic Man easily. There is nothing Spider-Man could do that would put Plas down. Basically a 200 feet tall shapeshifting weapon that will reassemble from any damage, and drive Spidey nuts at the same time.

Ah, but you never know. Spider-Man does regularly face Sandman and Hydroman, both of whom can have similar descriptors. Granted, he knows their weaknesses, but he has a nack for finding those out about his rogues.

But I won't contest your statement (only point out how it might be a bit closer than it seems you were saying) and instead jump in with a matchup because you forgot to put in one:

The Quiz (Doom Patrol villain) vs. Doomsday (hey, this one actually could technically happen, too, considering they're from the same company)

In the short run, the Quiz, as Doomsday doesn't have much of an imagination. The final victory will be Doomsday, after thousands of lifetimes.

The Great Ten (DC) Vs. Big hero 6 (Marvel) Big hero 6 gets all the members they've had over the years to make up the numbers.

Plastic Man's a hell of a lot smarter than those two, so I'd still give it to him as well. That said it would a hilarious fight, given both their penchants for snark and innovation.

Don't know those characters.

Lex Luthor vs Dr. Doom. Both have access to all the resources that they would normally have (no briefly stolen god powers for Doom, no Orange Ring for Luthor). Who outplans, outhinks, and ultimately (because it always comes down to that) outfights the other?

Huh. Not terribly familiar with either of the teams SKJAM posted, but after a quick Wiki Walk, the Great 10 has an overwhelming advantage in terms of sheer power... except for one thing: if Big Hero Six has all their members, that includes Red Ronin. Given that Red Ronin is capable of fighting Godzilla to a standstill and functionally ignoring the combined powers of the Avengers, I'm not sure that the Great 10 has anything that can seriously threaten it.

As for Doom vs. Luthor... sorry, but Doom at a walk. Luthor is incredibly brilliant, possibly even smarter than Doom, at least in some areas, but his biggest weakness is that he still thinks like a thug (at least in most depictions. In the movies, for some insane reason, he thinks like an unhinged real estate agent). He loses sight of the big picture far more easily than Doom. Also, while Luthor is a reasonably competent fighter, and his armour is arguably the more powerful of the two, Doom has killed a lion with his bare hands, and is a master martial artist. That, and in the final analysis, Doom's magic is too potent an edge to ignore.

Long story short, Doom is too much of a Villain Sue to lose to Luthor

Four-way matchup: Deadshot vs. Bullseye vs. Green Arrow vs. Purple Arrow Hawkeye... in a target shoot.

edited 12th Feb '14 3:18:17 PM by TeChameleon

Bullseye. Cos he'd murder the other three instead of aimming the target.

"That's a very good shot. So good, in fact, that I'll need to cheat."

As Edward Nygma once said after he won a fight against Prometheus, "Not cheating. Winning."

If you don't care enough to cheat, you don't care enough to win..

Well, how about a new match-up.

La Dama's criminal operations versus Kingpin's.

Kingpin has a much larger network of actual supervillains.

Re:Nextwave vs JLI.

JLI had more members, including Captain Atom, the Martian Manhunter, Flash, Doctor Fate, Wonder Woman, Power Girl, and Captain Marvel. They would beat Nextwave easily, as all of those guys have godly power and members like Doctor Light and Metamorpho are no slouches either.

How about Doctor Strange vs Doctor Fate in a magic duel?

edited 10th Mar '14 10:11:14 PM by Mr.Didact

The Sorcerer supreme has power from an Elder god, an elderelder god, their child and mistress death, four cosmic beings. On top of that he has years of decades of built up internal magic stores, a warehouse full of magic artifacts, a library of super natural monsters to channel on speed dial and a working Deus ex Machina. Dealing with 'gods' such as Dr. Fate is his day job.

Erik Killmonger vs Deathstroke the Terminator.

No idea, honestly. We're not really told enough about Black Panther and his enemies for me to have a good handle on what Killmonger can do.

Long answer: Both are effectively Super-Soldier while being Badass Normal. Both regularly use firearms and blades and best men who are their physical superior in combat.

But the fact is that DC's idea of a Super-Soldier and a Badass Normal is just a little bit...beyond Marvel's concept. Captain America, and by extension T'Challa, is supposedly physically superior in every possible way to every living human being, past or present, as well as a tactical genius and incredible intellect enabling him to take on foes that are vastly superior to him in a single way, yet Batman could keep up with him in the crossover series and fight him to a draw. And Deathstroke regularly kicks Batman's ass and holds the entire Titans team at bay by himself despite them pretty much all having superpowers and him having guns and CQC training.

Short answer: When comparing two people with similar story roles from Marvel and DC, the DC guy will usually always be better/more powerful. Deathstroke wins.

Solomon Grundy vs. Grey Hulk.

Solomon Grundy can't die permanently, right? He just comes back with a new personality, right? Either way, I think Hulk takes it just because a slugfest between the two of them would last long enough that Hulk gets angrier and angrier.

US 1 vs. NFL Superpro.

But that was Grey Hulk, not Green. Grey had a strength limit.

I say Superpro wins over US-1. He's Captain America-lite, and even if US-1 has his truck, I'd assume Superpro would dodge a ramming attempt and hop on in through the passenger door. The truck's weapons aren't designed to be used against regular people instead of other vehicles, so they wouldn't be much of an advantage. And US-1 is not an athlete like Superpro, so he would go down easily one-on-one.

Next one: how about Grant Morrison's Doom Patrol vs. Rachel Pollack's Doom Patrol? Yes, there are shared members (Robotman, Dorothy, the Chief), but they are different enough. It's the match-up of the two weirdest incarnations of the team.

Not only are we not sure who won, we are not sure who should have won, or even if a battle actually took place in any linear sense of the word.

edited 23rd Apr '14 5:57:49 AM by SKJAM