Inspired by this thread
, I've noticed that this wiki doesn't have a dedicated cleanup thread for negativity.
As we all know, Complaining About Shows You Don't Like, Creator Bashing and other negativity isn't desired on the wiki, except in a few selected areas like reviews and several Darth Wiki pages (and even then, with limitations). And yet, it's one of the most common sins wiki contributors can make.
So, if you find a page, TLP or discussion whose content seems like a straight-up insult or any other bitching - including complainy soapboxing -, you might ask here for help with removing said content.
The sandbox for this project is located at Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining.
Edited by MacronNotes on Apr 27th 2022 at 5:36:47 AM
So... I recently found this added on the Deviant Art page under Memetic Mutation;
- Deviantart Autism is a term referring to bizzare content uploaded by users which usually, but not limited to, contains crossovers of characters that people wouldn't usually cross together. The pieces containing the crossovers are usually very bad, often just being character renders taken off google images and then collaged together in an editing program such as Microsoft Paint or Photoshop. Some pieces, dubbed "reaction memes" involve plastering two screenshots next to each other. Such users are also infamous for not taking criticism very well and often will have full blown tantrums that may even esculate to using death threats/death wishes or making a character dislike the one who critiqued them in a reaction meme. Not to mention such users also behave incredibly childish with little to no social etiquette or self awareness despite them being between 20-40 years old. The content created by these individuals have become popular outside of deviantart on sites such as X/Twitter for just how bad and absurd they are. The name originates from their behaviour likely stemming from a result of being on the autism spectrum
While the basis behind this edit, in all honesty, isn't exactly untrue (I've seen more examples of the things listed here than I can count searching through DeviantArt), this edit feels overly negative. Granted, I'm on the spectrum myself, so this could just be me taking certain parts of the edit personally (that or just how the edit is written, if you're willing to be fair and assume that the editor is just paraphrasing what they've observed others saying).
Anyone have a second opinion?
Edited by WiryAiluropodine on Jul 18th 2024 at 2:55:29 AM
I found this on ArcFatigue.Live Action TV:
- Dead Boy Detectives (2024): Crystal's main role for most of the show was stealing the spotlight from the titular boys with her ex-boyfriend problems and lost memories, so all viewers agreed that storyline dragged on for too long and took up a lot of screentime, only surpassed by the Mystery of the Week. The problems come from the facts that despite lasting most of the season involving multiple repetitive plot points, there were very few clues to her past until then and a good portion of viewers find it difficult to tolerate the ridiculous amount of times the character laments her situation, caused that after a time when Crystal's problems are mentioned or addressed one tends to start thinking "Ah shit, here we go again". It didn't help that despite regaining her memories in the final episode, the character already had a quite controversial reception at that time that only worsened with her subsequent actions.
This reads more like complaining about the character then the arc itself. Like I am unsure rather to rewrite or cut it. Is it just me?
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Sponge is right, that is a real phenomenon and I've seen it myself. Rewording it sounds good, and we should probably also confirm if "DeviantArt Autism" is the real name of the phenomenon or not.
Question: if it is, would it be worth noting that we don't condone the term, or is that lurching into And That's Terrible turf?
Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallI found this example Characters.X Men Film Series Brotherhood where the example is appears to be Natter or bashing. Here's an example:
- Face–Heel Turn: X2: X-Men United shows him defecting to the Brotherhood, and the following one has him going full "fuck you, I'm evil!"
I'm sorry but why would someone make up a quote like that? What to do with this example?
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The entry reads as needless complaining. It could be condensed into just talking about how Crystal’s arc takes up time, or even moving her into a Base-Breaking Character reaction.
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TV Tropes has pages for stuff far more heinous and bigoted than a misguided meme like "Deviantart Autism", so I think the entry can speak for itself. It could also use a better name, or just not have a name.
It’s fine to make up a quote in a trope. It’s a common thing to condense info in reviews and less analytical stuff. The entry though could be cut or elaborated, since it doesn’t explain why Magneto defected.
Edited by CanuckMcDuck1 on Jul 18th 2024 at 8:30:20 AM
Do not mess with creatures which you do not understand.
If “Devianart Autism” is a term people came up with on DeviantArt, we can probably still document it without endorsing it or agreeing with it.
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What I said would be true if the term were commonly used, but if it isn’t, maybe it doesn’t need to be mentioned.
Edited by Lymantria on Jul 18th 2024 at 12:43:01 PM
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I would just move it to Base-Breaking Character, but it hasn't been 6 months since the show aired.
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The thing is, doing some research, the name isn’t commonly used. The most I got was a joke Reddit post calling the type "Deviantart Kid"
. The term also seems like it’s more an inside joke from some area of the internet like 4chan than well known.
Edited by CanuckMcDuck1 on Jul 18th 2024 at 8:37:44 AM
Do not mess with creatures which you do not understand.Um, who told you that?
Like seriously because I've never sen that as a guideline or a how to write tropes or anything like that.
Quotes (as in, quotation marks) mean something. Just because a page isn't analytical doesn't mean it's ok to make up quotes. If you're going to paraphrase or otherwise alter the text of somehow, that needs to be noted in some way. Especially for people who may not be fully familiar with a work, putting lines in quotations that are not quotes is only going to confuse the issue.
Well I thought usually on TV Tropes, quotes are represented in their column:
- Person: Like this form.
I also assume no one would think it’s a genuine quote because it’s something the character would never say.
Edited by CanuckMcDuck1 on Jul 18th 2024 at 9:01:56 AM
Do not mess with creatures which you do not understand.Exactly.
IF your description of a trope ends with "and then the protagonist says "X"", people unfamiliar with the work are just going to think the protagonist said X.
Especially if it's not on a work page but a trope page and the OP decided to be snarky about a show that they know all of the characters inside and out in and other people would just take at face value.
I found this on The Merch:
- After the success of the Frozen and Encanto merchandise in particular, Disney went all out with merch for their company centennial Milestone Celebration canon film Wish (2023), most of it featuring the Anna/Mirabel-esque heroine Asha and the tailor-made-for-plushies Cute Mute Star. Unfortunately, the film was a critical and Box-Office Bomb so it ended up having the opposite problem Frozen had as merchandise lingered on shelves for months afterward, compounding the failure.
Okay the line I highlighted. That is just complaining. Also, what does that have to do with the trope? Which is just merch exists? Thoughts? Is it just me.
Edited by Bullman on Jul 19th 2024 at 11:41:41 AM
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup threadThis is from the description of Final Fantasy VII.
- Few people completely grasp the plot during the first playthrough; even for a RPG, this game can get extremely complicated. This is not helped by the poor translation, whose errors range from horrific spelling/grammar errors ("This guy are sick") to outright misinformation ("Attack while the tail is up"). The PC version corrected almost all of these errors, but also sanitized the game by censoring the most major expletives and having Barret generally speak normal English rather than Ebonics.
I only focused on the Ebonics part (There is no "Ebonics" in the original Japanese and was added for the PS 1 release so no, this isnt "Censorship") but now I can see this whole chunk can be tossed entirely and nothing of value would be lost.
As long as this flower is in my heart. My Strength will flow without end.I've seen this on CSM YMMV.
- Ass Pull: In Part 1, Yoshida was clearly able to hold his own against Quanxi, and in turn Yoru was clearly made out to be stronger than Yoshida in chapter 148. However, when Yoru and Katana Man face Quanxi in chapter 162, she proceeds to effortlessly curb stomp both of them, before randomly deciding to let them go after she sees Denji's chopped-up head. Many have decried this as Fujimoto blatantly trying to get out of drawing a fight. While this wouldn't normally be a notable source of backlash, the fact that it interrupts the Internal Reveal of Asa finding out that Denji is Chainsaw Man, only for Quanxi to enter and exit without contributing anything to the story made many question what the point of her showing up even was.
I think the second part is just complaining about them not seeing more of Asa reaction to her learning about CSM identity.
From Trivia.Tempo:
- What Could Have Been: Earlier prototypes of the first game gave a lot more points out, balanced enough to make the good ending achievable but still fairly difficult. Unfortunately, when they lowered the point value by the final release, they forgot to alter the ending requirements, meaning half of the endings are impossible to get without grinding for up to six hours.
This feels a bit like its complaining about the difficulty. Suggested rewrite:
- What Could Have Been: Earlier prototypes of the first game gave a lot more points out, in a manner balanced enough to make the good ending achievable but still fairly difficult. The point value would be lowered in the final release, with the ending requirements not being altered, leading to some criticism that completing the game became too time-consuming and difficult.
Still too negative, or improved enough to swap?
Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Jul 20th 2024 at 3:19:33 PM
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YMMV.Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory
YMMV.Megadimension Neptunia VII
(As a side note, "petite" means small not "small chest", though both can overlap)
YMMV.Neptunia
- Base-Breaking Character:
- Plutia, along with her CPU form Iris Heart. To fans, she's an endearingly cooky Kindhearted Simpleton in her human form and a Creepy Good Ms. Fanservice in her HDD form who bring out the game's best moments. To detractors, she's at best an indolent Idiot Hero whose contribution only bogs the game down a peg, and at worst a sociopathic bully who abuses the fact that she's The Dreaded by both her enemies and her friends to get away with things that are considerably worse than what the actual villains do, and is heavily implied to have raped her victims. While her other appearances are considered fine at best (MegaTagmension, 4 Goddesses Online) or a major step-up from her debut game (The Animation, VS Sega Hard Girls to a lesser extent), her role in Victory has cemented her status as the series' most contested CPU.
- Character Perception Evolution: When she first debuted in mk2, Nepgear was loved by Japanese audiences, but contested by Western fans for her constant self-deprecation and abrupt Character Development, feeling that she was a step-down from the previous game's protagonist, Neptune. Her actions in the infamous Conquest Ending didn't do any favors either, as it became a significant Never Live It Down moment for the character and the franchise. Years after the game released however, many reevaluated her mk2 self, noting that while flawed, she was still kind-hearted to everyone around her, and was overall more diligent and mature than her older sister Neptune (who would prioritize slacking off over working and had a bit of an ego problem). It helps that later games began to focus more on Nepgear being a Gadgeteer Genius than her Heroic Self-Deprecation, especially after the backlash of her Butt-Monkey re-characterization in her second appearance. Nowadays, she is regarded as one of the most popular characters in the entire series on par with Noire, Uni, and even Neptune herself.
"It's requested that your death ends here, now!" - Sayaka, Death end re;Quest Code Z.