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Inspired by this thread, I've noticed that this wiki doesn't have a dedicated cleanup thread for negativity.

As we all know, Complaining About Shows You Don't Like, Creator Bashing and other negativity isn't desired on the wiki, except in a few selected areas like reviews and several Darth Wiki pages (and even then, with limitations). And yet, it's one of the most common sins wiki contributors can make.

So, if you find a page, TLP or discussion whose content seems like a straight-up insult or any other bitching - including complainy soapboxing -, you might ask here for help with removing said content.

The sandbox for this project is located at Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining.

Edited by MacronNotes on Apr 27th 2022 at 5:36:47 AM

Albert3105 Since: Jun, 2013
#1326: Dec 11th 2018 at 2:03:48 PM

[up] I've zapped 60% of the Gate example due to the Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgment alone.

Edited by Albert3105 on Dec 11th 2018 at 2:05:59 AM

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#1327: Dec 11th 2018 at 2:08:39 PM

Discontinuity.Super Mario Logan is 80% 'this episode sucks and people hate it' without giving reasons why or being neutral in tone.

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ADrago Since: Dec, 2015
#1328: Dec 11th 2018 at 7:22:58 PM

[up] I remember that page being brought up on this thread or another thread before. And the page just looks like a list of episodes people dislike and is very complain-y.

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#1329: Dec 13th 2018 at 4:08:34 PM

The first few quotes on Quotes.Vocal Minority look a bit more negative then they should be.

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#1330: Dec 13th 2018 at 4:25:07 PM

And they're using words to describe the groups that are not ROCEJ friendly, especially the second and third.

Anyone else in favor of pulling those?

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ADrago Since: Dec, 2015
#1331: Dec 13th 2018 at 7:43:46 PM

The second and third quote sound ROCEJ-violating, so those should be removed.

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#1332: Dec 13th 2018 at 9:03:35 PM

Consider it done.

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Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#1333: Dec 13th 2018 at 10:35:08 PM

What about this one?

"Usually the people they piss off are either on the conservative or liberal extremes, but these voices are always loud enough to keep Disney just a little bit on edge."

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rjd1922 he/him | Image Pickin' regular from the United States Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#1334: Dec 18th 2018 at 12:33:58 PM

This sentence the lead section of Monkey Island sounds like it's bashing the later LucasArts (how do I quote on forums?):

"As LucasArts was actually somewhat clever and still had a sense of humor in those days, they told Schafer and his gang write the rest of the dialogue."

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Mickoonsley19 Since: Feb, 2018
rjd1922 he/him | Image Pickin' regular from the United States Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#1336: Dec 18th 2018 at 8:20:28 PM

[up]I don't see how it's complaining.

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PegasusKnightmare Since: Aug, 2016
#1337: Dec 18th 2018 at 9:05:29 PM

[up][up] Yeah, that seems more like humor than actual complaining.

rjd1922 he/him | Image Pickin' regular from the United States Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#1338: Dec 19th 2018 at 7:09:40 AM

Could a mod fix the red links in the pinned post?

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Berrenta MOD How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#1339: Dec 19th 2018 at 4:32:16 PM

[up] Consider that done.

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Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#1340: Dec 23rd 2018 at 3:03:26 PM

Recap.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic IDW Issue 48 To 50:

  • Broken Aesop: The entire story arc builds up the idea that Accord's absolute order is just as disharmonic as Discord's absolute chaos because harmony is a mixture of chaos and order and thus an absolute of either is just as bad. Being convinced of this is the entire reason that Accord agrees to turn back into Discord. This Aesop is completely shattered by the fact the Elements of Harmony don't work on Accord because he's absolute order, meaning that harmony IS absolute order after all, at least as far as the Elements, the uncontested ultimate arbiters of Harmony until now, are concerned.
  • Shoot the Shaggy Dog: Twilight and Luna's entire Battle in the Center of the Mind subplot. Not only do they fail to restore Discord, but Accord simply brainwashes them too. And nothing that they've learned even gets used during the Final Battle.

Broken Aesop: requires the Elements have the Omniscient Morality License as opposed to being fallible tools, which is fan assumption as they show has never explain their working (it's explained why they didn't work here by Accord, who may have been biased).

Shoot the Shaggy Dog: From the characters perspective, yes, but it foreshadows to the audience how he'll be beat. Is that a misuse if it has a greater purpose?

Edited by Ferot_Dreadnaught on Dec 24th 2018 at 3:20:16 AM

Ashfire A Star Wars Nerd from In My Own Little World Since: Aug, 2013
A Star Wars Nerd
#1341: Dec 24th 2018 at 12:54:05 PM

Not sure if this is the right thread for it, but the description for Metaplot seems to mostly be an essay as to why metaplot in ttrpgs is bad. It should probably be rewritten to be more neutral.

costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
#1342: Dec 24th 2018 at 4:17:50 PM

Headscratchers.Advertising looks to be full of complaining that's probably a relic from when it was called Just Bugs Me. I started going through the page to see what was complaints, but there's a lot of it.

Edited by costanton11 on Dec 24th 2018 at 6:25:56 AM

GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#1343: Dec 25th 2018 at 6:45:51 AM

[up]Are Headscratchers subpages even allowed for types of works, as opposed to specific works or series? Subpages like the Awesome/ subpage at least act as hubs/indexes for Advertising/ articles' subpages.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Dec 25th 2018 at 8:50:44 AM

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
#1344: Dec 25th 2018 at 6:52:46 AM

[up]It was mentioned here that general headscratcher pages for media types were agreed to be cut.

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#1345: Dec 25th 2018 at 9:31:01 AM

Media types, as in film in general, tv in general. The Advertising has specific examples, whatever else its flaws.

costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
#1346: Dec 25th 2018 at 9:32:31 AM

I went through and removed most of the complainy bits from the page.

Playing_with_boy Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#1347: Dec 28th 2018 at 5:38:24 PM

Is this too complainy for a YMMV page? For context, it's The Weird Al Show's YMMV page

Just Here for Godzilla: The few who still remember this show are mostly dedicated Weird Al fans, many of whom are willing to look past the glaring flaws just because it has Weird Al in it.

rjd1922 he/him | Image Pickin' regular from the United States Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#1348: Dec 29th 2018 at 10:43:29 AM

Anime.Romance Of The Three Kingdoms' lead section is basically all bashing it, and it's not a universally panned anime from what I can tell, having a 7.45 rating on MyAnimeList. Also, this example of Fandom Rivalry on YMMV.Danganronpa V 3 Killing Harmony seems to be bashing Exile Election (I just edited it to remove the "recently" part and correct an error):

  • Exile Election has been the target of Danganronpa fans, being accused of being a poor copy of the franchise, the generic designs that are less interesting than DR's art style, the pandering use of Lolicon and Shotacon appealing designs of several characters and the lack of originality in the game's premise (twelve people get stuck in an amusement park, being forced to vote on which of them must die).

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#1349: Dec 29th 2018 at 12:45:57 PM

Re: Weird Al:

I say it can be rewritten just to focus on watching the show for the titular person and cut out mention of flaws. Something like this, maybe? Suggestions for improvement welcome:

  • Just Here for Godzilla: Many dedicated Wierd Al fans still remember this show. Of those, some watch it just for Weird Al himself.

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Playing_with_boy Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#1350: Dec 29th 2018 at 12:52:36 PM

You misspelled "weird" as "wierd", but other than that's it is pretty good.


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