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Inspired by this thread, I've noticed that this wiki doesn't have a dedicated cleanup thread for negativity.

As we all know, Complaining About Shows You Don't Like, Creator Bashing and other negativity isn't desired on the wiki, except in a few selected areas like reviews and several Darth Wiki pages (and even then, with limitations). And yet, it's one of the most common sins wiki contributors can make.

So, if you find a page, TLP or discussion whose content seems like a straight-up insult or any other bitching - including complainy soapboxing -, you might ask here for help with removing said content.

The sandbox for this project is located at Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining.

Edited by MacronNotes on Apr 27th 2022 at 5:36:47 AM

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#7376: Oct 12th 2021 at 1:24:31 PM

@nanakiro: Honestly, No-Respect Guy sees a lot of misuse. The general summation is that it is two tropes in one-Only Sane Man and Chew Toy, but plenty of the examples do not fit both criteria, and are generally just a different way to say Butt-Monkey.

And the Dipper example is just a really clear example of the trope being used to bash another character. Mabel's vocal hatedom aside, there's no reason to bring any of that up if you've already properly established that Dipper is a No-Respect Guy.

Which, he isn't, really (he's closer to Butt-Monkey but even then many episodes end with various positive things happening to/for Dipper). I would go ahead and cut that example, and probably several others on the page.

PlasmaPower Piece of Cake. Since: Jan, 2015
Piece of Cake.
#7377: Oct 12th 2021 at 1:34:14 PM

I found this on iDubbbzTV.

Thomas fans needed! Come join me in the the show's cleanup thread!
mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#7378: Oct 12th 2021 at 1:48:24 PM

Cut everything from the "However" onward, as it's far too close to saying those fans actually deserve suicide which is not kosher.

Edited by mightymewtron on Oct 12th 2021 at 4:48:36 AM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
ejmenendez Since: May, 2015
#7379: Oct 12th 2021 at 5:36:24 PM

I found this on Dude, Not Funny!:

The bolded part seems iffy to me, as it seems to call out something that wasn't even focused on in the episode itself, comes across as tacked on due to everything before it sounding fine, and even potholes to Hypocrite. Permission to delete?

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#7381: Oct 12th 2021 at 6:02:35 PM

[up][up]Dude, Not Funny! is about in universe reactions, it kind of has to be because everything is not funny to some one.

I would definitely cut the bolded part because, by definition, if no one is objecting to what Amethyst is doing then it doesn't fit.

DongwaChan (Apprentice)
#7382: Oct 12th 2021 at 6:52:52 PM

I found this on Music/Bowdlerise:

""Power" originally had a second verse that started with a somewhat unwarranted Take That! against Saturday Night Live and a much-needed Take That! against Kanye himself:"

The parts in bold needs to be cut.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000)
#7383: Oct 12th 2021 at 6:53:18 PM

Feel free to cut it, then...

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BigJimbo Since: Dec, 2017
#7384: Oct 13th 2021 at 8:43:25 AM

On the topic of No-Respect Guy, I edited both aforementioned entries to be less complainy.

SpongeBat1 We stan Clippy in this house from Quittersville, Failuretown, and Loserburg (Y2: Electric Boogaloo) Relationship Status: It's a god-awful small affair
We stan Clippy in this house
#7385: Oct 13th 2021 at 6:33:42 PM

There's this example on California Doubling/California:

  • A horrifying example of California Doubling in the United States was the short-lived Fox series Drive (2007). The series started in Florida, going through Georgia, and through the desert of southern California every step of the way. Florida has no mountains, period, end of discussion.
I've never even heard of this show and know very little about places outside my home state so I wouldn't know how to fix it beyond removing the bolded parts.

Came for the tropes, stayed for the cleanup.
magnumtropus Since: Aug, 2020
#7386: Oct 13th 2021 at 6:43:29 PM

Why would it be horrifying?

Edited by magnumtropus on Oct 13th 2021 at 5:44:58 PM

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
lee4hmz 486-powered rotating frosted cherry Pop-Tart from A shipwreck in the tidal Potomac (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
486-powered rotating frosted cherry Pop-Tart
#7388: Oct 13th 2021 at 7:43:56 PM

[up][up][up]Florida is pretty much entirely on a coastal plain, so it's almost completely flat. The nearest mountains are in Alabama and Georgia.

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AlmightyKingPrawn I can chase the wind, I can race the rain from Down at Fraggle Rock *clap clap* Since: Oct, 2019 Relationship Status: I love you for psychological reasons
I can chase the wind, I can race the rain
#7389: Oct 14th 2021 at 3:15:16 PM

StockParodyJokes.Animated Films had this added initially, which I think is kosher:

  • It's rather common to portray Mickey Mouse as the person actually running the Walt Disney Company.
However, it recently got edited into this:
  • It's annoyingly common to portray Mickey Mouse as the person actually running the Walt Disney Company. More often than not, they butcher him into a Corrupt Corporate Executive. Just about everyone who jokes about Disney's practices does this, to give you an idea of how overused it is.

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Berrenta Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Bejeweled (she/her)
#7390: Oct 14th 2021 at 3:18:07 PM

[up] Motion to revert.

Akatia Should I stay or should I go? from The Internet Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
Should I stay or should I go?
#7391: Oct 14th 2021 at 7:56:10 PM

I removed most of the complaining on VideoGame.Bomberman Act Zero. YMMV needs a look though.

Edited by Akatia on Oct 14th 2021 at 9:57:55 AM

costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
#7392: Oct 14th 2021 at 9:12:27 PM

This entry from YMMV.Cinema Sins seems a bit compliany:

  • "Cinema Sins Effect" Explanation 

Edited by costanton11 on Oct 14th 2021 at 11:12:34 AM

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#7393: Oct 14th 2021 at 11:08:52 PM

Not sure what that's for - is it Memetic Mutation? Because that is 100 percent, absolutely a thing, but I've never been in favor of listing complaining memes under that trope and I'm not sure it's site policy either.

(I also don't like referencing a specific work.)

mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#7394: Oct 15th 2021 at 1:16:09 AM

Is it even really a meme? It's more of a pop culture theory. Using the "ding!" to reference nitpicking is more of a meme than this is.

Edited by mightymewtron on Oct 15th 2021 at 4:16:33 AM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
#7395: Oct 15th 2021 at 5:45:47 AM

Regarding the example listed with The Last Jedi, the information is more All There in the Manual rather than something obvious.

fragglelover Since: Jun, 2012
#7396: Oct 15th 2021 at 8:49:24 AM

This is on Schoolhouse Rock! under the "Interjections" folder:

Large Ham: Pretty much anyone who talks, to drive the point of how an interjection makes a difference (y'know, because kids are stupid).

I'm not sure that the part in parentheses is really necessary...

mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#7397: Oct 15th 2021 at 9:16:45 AM

How does that even mean kids are stupid? It's exaggerated because interjections are meant to draw attention. It's not simply a matter of shouting at kids obnoxiously. Cut the parenthetical.

Edited by mightymewtron on Oct 15th 2021 at 12:17:05 PM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Reymma RJ Savoy from Edinburgh Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
RJ Savoy
#7398: Oct 15th 2021 at 9:33:55 AM

If everyone is a Large Ham, wouldn't it fit World of Ham better?

Stories don't tell us monsters exist; we knew that already. They show us that monsters can be trademarked and milked for years.
PhantomDusclops92 Nitpicky Nitwit from Italy Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Nitpicky Nitwit
#7399: Oct 15th 2021 at 11:30:01 AM

Found on Purple Prose:

The way this example is written is basically mocking and complaining about people on RP chats.

Edited by PhantomDusclops92 on Oct 15th 2021 at 8:30:25 PM

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000)
#7400: Oct 15th 2021 at 11:30:43 AM

It's general anyway. Just snip it.

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