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Inspired by this thread, I've noticed that this wiki doesn't have a dedicated cleanup thread for negativity.

As we all know, Complaining About Shows You Don't Like, Creator Bashing and other negativity isn't desired on the wiki, except in a few selected areas like reviews and several Darth Wiki pages (and even then, with limitations). And yet, it's one of the most common sins wiki contributors can make.

So, if you find a page, TLP or discussion whose content seems like a straight-up insult or any other bitching - including complainy soapboxing -, you might ask here for help with removing said content.

The sandbox for this project is located at Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining.

Edited by MacronNotes on Apr 27th 2022 at 5:36:47 AM

Cutegirl920fire CG for short from NYC apparently (Rule of Three) Relationship Status: Paris holds the key to my heart
CG for short
#6801: Aug 6th 2021 at 4:15:47 PM

Cut that one out.

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HoloMew151 Space Gal from From Deep, Deep Space Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Tweaking my holographic boyfriend
Space Gal
#6802: Aug 7th 2021 at 6:19:55 AM

From Not-So-Cheap Imitation:

This sounds a bit both too much complaining and gushing at the same time to me. What do you think?

Edited by HoloMew151 on Aug 7th 2021 at 2:21:24 PM

themayorofsimpleton Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him from Elsewhere (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
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#6803: Aug 7th 2021 at 6:21:51 AM

[up] It is very complain-y, and also gushy towards Bluey. I don't know if it's valid, but it at least needs a rewrite.

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nanakiro Since: Feb, 2011
#6804: Aug 7th 2021 at 7:43:14 AM

From High School AU

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nanakiro Since: Feb, 2011
papyru30 The wifi here sucks from South Dakota for school Since: Aug, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
The wifi here sucks
#6807: Aug 7th 2021 at 10:49:30 AM

Found this on the headscratcher page for Total Recall (2012). I understand that headscratcher pages are more informal but this specific discussion leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

  • The biggest headscratcher of all has to be, why do I care that the big bad wants to invade the 'colony' in the first place? Nothing is done to make the colony sympathetic in any way, besides the fact the nominal 'hero' of the piece lives there(and even that doesn't help). After this troper watched a lot of fisticuffs, loud car chases and some other stuff I forget, the movie reminded me I was supposed to be rooting for Quaid because of the planned invasion-I still wasn't able to care whether he invaded or not. The colony is oppressed didnt work since it really didn't seem all the different from Britain except they had nicer teeth and perfect hair in the Federation.
    • Well, most people automatically think that an armed force marching in and slaughtering a bunch of people because they want their stuff is bad. They don't really need to be given a "reason" to not want to see a bunch of people who didn't do anything mowed down so that other people can move into their apartments. Generally asking an entire country's population "Do you have a particularly good reason we shouldn't herd you all into gas chambers so we can take what you own?" is an indicator of severe mental and moral defect.
      • Nice ad-hom there with no-so-subtle 'Hitler comparison' thrown in for good measure. Well played!. But leaving that tasteless implication aside, In-Universe, the Big-Bad doesnt overtly state hes going to stage a massacre of 10, 100s? of millions of people, and really provides no real justification besides wanting land which is vaguely alluded to, thus we have no reason to 'care' if he does, because he tells us very little. Its even worse when we see during the movie, the Big Damn Hero takes a very short trip to a contaminated area literally within sight of the pristine high-rises of the UFB. Now, since Cohaagen has access to a vast bunch of robo-soliders, would it not have been much cheaper, (and easier) to re-purpose, or build those robots as decontamination-bots instead and reclaim the space? That is a like a several minute ride away? Rather than a risky and expensive invasion of an area on the opposite side of the earth and requires a trip through the Earths core. Either way, the original point still stands. The movies makes zero attempt to create any sort of attachment to the 'colony' nor does the Big Bads strategy make a whole lot of sense either. All we see of the 'Colony' is a VR playground for people wanting to escape reality, a lot of hookers and street thugs, and lots of trash. Not so much as a cute kid to justify Hausers heel-faced turn.
      • Y'know, if you don't want to be called a sociopath, maybe you shouldn't dismiss people's right to live just because you don't find them endearing enough.

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miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#6808: Aug 7th 2021 at 10:51:38 AM

Ewwhhhh

That's justifying freaking colonialism.

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DoktorvonEurotrash Since: Jan, 2001
#6809: Aug 7th 2021 at 2:32:43 PM

[up][up]Yikes. I have no objections to cutting that.

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#6810: Aug 7th 2021 at 2:33:49 PM

[up][up][up] Thread Mode-level natter, and this wonderful portion:

All we see of the 'Colony' is a VR playground for people wanting to escape reality, a lot of hookers and street thugs, and lots of trash. Not so much as a cute kid to justify Hausers heel-faced turn.

What a disgusting implication. People have to be "endearing" to justify not colonizing them. Slice and dice.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Aug 7th 2021 at 5:36:29 AM

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miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#6811: Aug 7th 2021 at 2:36:54 PM

Who wrote that..

It's so disturbing. That I want to check their edits to see if their doing more of this.

[up]This implies the lives of hookers and street people aren't worth anything too. So vile.

Edited by miraculous on Aug 7th 2021 at 2:38:04 AM

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PlasmaPower Since: Jan, 2015
#6813: Aug 7th 2021 at 2:53:51 PM

Who wrote the natter telling how terrible the person who wrote this are?

Honestly, they're all horrible parts to me.

Edited by PlasmaPower on Aug 7th 2021 at 6:54:40 AM

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WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
Discarded and Feeling Blue
#6814: Aug 7th 2021 at 2:56:39 PM

It's not Natter on Headscratchers...

It's a garbage question even setting aside the Unfortunate Implications. Headscratchers isn't for bashing.

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PlasmaPower Since: Jan, 2015
#6815: Aug 7th 2021 at 3:06:23 PM

Should we block them from the site just to be safe?

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Serac she/her Since: Mar, 2016 Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
she/her
#6816: Aug 7th 2021 at 3:54:17 PM

Only the moderators get to decide that, and the person hasn't touched the wiki in 6 years, so I don't think they would see it as necessary.

Edited by Serac on Aug 7th 2021 at 5:54:36 AM

papyru30 The wifi here sucks from South Dakota for school Since: Aug, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
The wifi here sucks
#6817: Aug 7th 2021 at 5:08:59 PM

If no one has any issues I'm just going to cut the entire conversation, it doesn't say anything actually important and is just an unpleasant mess.

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#6818: Aug 7th 2021 at 8:15:40 PM

Go ahead and cut.

As for the user, if they've been inactive for that long, then a suspension would be pointless.

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#6819: Aug 8th 2021 at 2:12:55 AM

I agree with cutting it. Was Headscratchers still called It Just Bugs Me in 2012 (the movie's year of release)? (It was known as It Just Bugs Me when I joined, and I sort of remember the name change, but I don't remember when it was changed.) In the past, this thread has encountered complaint-filled Headscratchers threads that predate the name change, but I don't know if that's one of them.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 8th 2021 at 4:14:05 AM

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BigJimbo Since: Dec, 2017
#6820: Aug 8th 2021 at 6:51:36 AM

This entry in YMMV.Pokemon S 1 E 38 Electric Soldier Porygon reads as a bit too bashy in my book:

  • Misblamed: Because it was the Pokémon of the week, it's often mentioned that Porygon was the one who caused the seizure-inducing flashing lights when in fact it was Pikachu shocking the inside of the computer the main trio were in. But since Pikachu's the mascot and everything, Porygon was branded as the scapegoat, and as a result, Porygon and its evolutions have yet to make another major appearance in the anime.

TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Lucas the Dreamer
#6821: Aug 8th 2021 at 7:11:25 AM

[up]

Misblamed: Because it was the Pokémon of the week, it's often mentioned that Porygon was the one who caused the seizure-inducing flashing lights when it was actually Pikachu (or more accurately the episode’s animators).
How’s that?

Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Aug 8th 2021 at 10:11:35 AM

Why waste time when you can see the last sunset last?
TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Lucas the Dreamer
#6822: Aug 8th 2021 at 7:14:13 AM

Also I’d split the part about Porygon and it’s evolutions being exiled from the anime into a seperate “Never Live It Down” entry (assuming it isn’t there already since I haven’t read the page in it’s current state).

Why waste time when you can see the last sunset last?
Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#6823: Aug 8th 2021 at 7:16:08 AM

In my eyes, Misblamed is for staff, not characters.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Lucas the Dreamer
#6824: Aug 8th 2021 at 7:17:08 AM

So remove mention of Pikachu and instead say it was the fault of the animators?

Why waste time when you can see the last sunset last?
Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#6825: Aug 8th 2021 at 7:18:12 AM

No, just cut it.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”

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