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Inspired by this thread, I've noticed that this wiki doesn't have a dedicated cleanup thread for negativity.

As we all know, Complaining About Shows You Don't Like, Creator Bashing and other negativity isn't desired on the wiki, except in a few selected areas like reviews and several Darth Wiki pages (and even then, with limitations). And yet, it's one of the most common sins wiki contributors can make.

So, if you find a page, YKTTW or discussion whose content seems like a straight-up insult or any other bitching - including complainy soapboxing -, you might ask here for help with removing said content.

Edited by Berrenta on Dec 19th 2018 at 6:31:01 AM

Raso Cure Candy
Cure Candy
Apr 8th 2012 at 4:53:11 PM

Insufferable Genius Real Life section.... really....

Cut it?

edited 8th Apr '12 4:53:20 PM by Raso

Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!
lu127 Paper Master from 空蝉丸
Apr 8th 2012 at 4:54:15 PM

...I don't like what I'm seeing.

Raso Cure Candy
Cure Candy
Apr 8th 2012 at 4:57:10 PM

As in what I posted or the content of that page?

Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!
Apr 8th 2012 at 5:07:28 PM

I just cut it. Too much trouble. We are about storytelling, not storytellers

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
Apr 9th 2012 at 10:20:40 AM

The 9 Chickweed Lane page needs serious attention. I don't like the comic strip much myself, but this is really excessive, so perhaps someone with a more neutral attitude toward the work can have a go at it?

ThatHuman someone from someplace
someone
Apr 10th 2012 at 8:41:12 AM

The article on Transformers All Hail Megatron has some complaining in the entires. See the ones that page's entires for Decompressed Comic, Did Not Do The Research, Jerkass, Show, Don't Tell, Ted Baxter. And maybe a few others. Also rather natter-y, that page.

edited 10th Apr '12 8:42:19 AM by ThatHuman

something
Apr 11th 2012 at 12:20:46 PM

Update: Cleaned up Nine Chickweed Lane (the main, YMMV and WMG pages), since there were apparently no takers.

HersheleOstropoler You gotta get yourself some marble columns from BK.NY.US Relationship Status: Less than three
You gotta get yourself some marble columns
Apr 11th 2012 at 1:04:04 PM

Some fucking idiot wrote Showgirls before no negativity was really being enforced. I've cleaned it a little but I don't think that went far enough.

It also needs to be namespaced but I realize that's a different thread.

The child is father to the man —Oedipus
Michael So that's what this does Relationship Status: Drift compatible
So that's what this does
Apr 12th 2012 at 9:48:38 AM

While we're discussing Real Life sections, Gold Digger probably needs some cutting up too.

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
Apr 12th 2012 at 9:59:40 AM

"While we're discussing Real Life sections, Gold Digger probably needs some cutting up too."

I agree. I would think just about any characterization that is perceived as negative should have No Real Life Examples Please.

I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
arcsquad12 The Inheritor from Monument of Sins
The Inheritor
Apr 12th 2012 at 12:02:55 PM

Author Tract just devolves into back and forth bickering in some of the examples.

Do not be so quick to make foolish offers, Daemon. Araghast too once thought I would be an asset to his cause. Look what has become of him.
ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth
Apr 13th 2012 at 9:20:24 AM

Headscratchers.House has a fair amount of It Just Bugs Me leftovers. I have never seen the series and also I am not sure how much is OK to remove from a Headscratchers page, so I am not comfortable cleaning it up.

I know Headscratchers.Gargoyles has some IJBM leftovers too, but I'm familiar with that series. May I please have some guidelines for how severely to prune a Headscratchers page? What sort of things to cut or not cut in the grey areas?

edited 13th Apr '12 9:20:39 AM by ArcadesSabboth

Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
MagBas Mag Bas from In my house
Apr 13th 2012 at 10:22:25 AM

Of the main headscratchers page: "Note: This is for sincere questions, and discussing Fridge Logic. Not stealth complaining like "Why does <insert anything here> suck so much?". That's why we axed the original name, "It Just Bugs Me"."

ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth
Apr 13th 2012 at 11:32:45 AM

[up]I know, but I need more guidelines than that. I am afraid to just chainsaw a whole page. There are grey area entries.

edited 13th Apr '12 11:32:56 AM by ArcadesSabboth

Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
Apr 14th 2012 at 7:52:40 AM

In this post to a since locked thread, Mag Bas recommended cutting all Headscratchers pages about tropes, and Judgement seconded. If Headscratchers for tropes shall be cut, then where would have been a better place to post the sorts of requests currently posted in Headscratchers.Super Deformed and Headscratchers.Half Dressed Cartoon Animal? Is it "complaining" to ask for clues that would help sustain a viewer's Willing Suspension of Disbelief in works using a given trope?

edited 14th Apr '12 7:53:11 AM by DamianYerrick

ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth
Apr 14th 2012 at 11:06:17 AM

Maybe move them to Analysis.

Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
SeptimusHeap from Bern, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Apr 14th 2012 at 11:07:00 AM

[up]Analysis is for walkthroughs, not questions.

But this is more Wiki Talk discussion.

HersheleOstropoler You gotta get yourself some marble columns from BK.NY.US Relationship Status: Less than three
You gotta get yourself some marble columns
Apr 14th 2012 at 12:01:16 PM

Wait, what? Isn't Analysis for analyzing?

edited 14th Apr '12 12:01:30 PM by HersheleOstropoler

The child is father to the man —Oedipus
Morven Nemesis from Seattle, WA, USA
Nemesis
Apr 15th 2012 at 2:45:06 AM

Yes, but does that include unanswered questions? I'm not sure.

A brighter future for a darker age.
Butterfinger Relationship Status: Sinking with my ship
Apr 19th 2012 at 11:23:12 AM

Hype Aversion seems to be just inviting negativity with allowing examples. Should no examples should be allowed on the trope page, similarly to Hype Backlash? Also, should this go to TRS? I'm sort of new to this page fixing thing.

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Nocturna Seeking for Light
Seeking for Light
Apr 19th 2012 at 1:50:26 PM

[up] Generally, complete example sectionectomies go through TRS.

SeptimusHeap from Bern, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Apr 21st 2012 at 5:57:24 AM

No Indoor Voice sounds pretty negative in the description.

SeptimusHeap from Bern, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Fnu
Apr 22nd 2012 at 5:15:10 PM

The description for No Indoor Voice could definitely use some revising. It sounds horrible. The examples look okay to me though.

OldManHoOh It's super effective. from England
It's super effective.
Apr 23rd 2012 at 8:44:34 AM

Novelization almost comes across as a dis-recommendation page. Is there any way of approaching this?


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