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Inspired by this thread, I've noticed that this wiki doesn't have a dedicated cleanup thread for negativity.

As we all know, Complaining About Shows You Dont Like, Creator Bashing and other negativity isn't desired on the wiki, except in a few selected areas like reviews and several Darth Wiki pages (and even then, with limitations). And yet, it's one of the most common sins wiki contributors can make.

So, if you find a page, YKTTW or discussion whose content seems like a straight-up insult or any other bitching - including complainy soapboxing -, you might ask here for help with removing said content.

SeptimusHeap Tadpole! from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Tadpole!
Mar 26th 2012 at 3:35:56 AM

Inspired by this thread, I've noticed that this wiki doesn't have a dedicated cleanup thread for negativity.

As we all know, Complaining About Shows You Dont Like, Creator Bashing and other negativity isn't desired on the wiki, except in a few selected areas like reviews and several Darth Wiki pages (and even then, with limitations). And yet, it's one of the most common sins wiki contributors can make.

So, if you find a page, YKTTW or discussion whose content seems like a straight-up insult or any other bitching - including complainy soapboxing -, you might ask here for help with removing said content.

lu127 Paper Master from 空蝉丸
Mar 26th 2012 at 10:00:21 AM

So, let's kickstart this.

I dislike Twilight a lot, but the sheer negative natter it generates everywhere is really annoying. Negativity aside, the natter alone is pretty bad.

許さない 貴方だけを
Mar 26th 2012 at 1:55:06 PM

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edited 23rd Jul '17 2:17:21 PM by Jicragg

whizzerd workin' on it from Scotland Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
workin' on it
Mar 27th 2012 at 9:22:29 AM

The page for Steven Seagal is basically one long Take That! against him. I don't know much about him besides that he's not very popular, but pointing out every little thing that makes him suck is a bit far.

reset myself and get back on track — goes by they/them, not he/him or she/her.
Martello Hammer of the Pervs from Black River, NY
Hammer of the Pervs
Mar 27th 2012 at 9:28:06 AM

Ugh, you're right. I hate the idea that just because a certain public figure isn't popular right now, he should be fair game for bashing on a wiki like ours. On the forums, fine, but not on the creator pages. I watch the Frank Miller page just to remove that kind of bullshit, but of course I'm actually a Frank Miller fan. Seagal is a huge douche-bag, but that shouldn't matter to us at this site.

edited 27th Mar '12 9:29:32 AM by Martello

"Did anybody invent this stuff on purpose?" - Phillip Marlowe on tequila, Finger Man by Raymond Chandler.
Mar 27th 2012 at 12:47:11 PM

Argh, there's a little too much complaining here on Historical Re Creation for me to tackle myself.

Mar 27th 2012 at 1:56:28 PM

What do people think of this draft for Rejected By History?

Sounds to me like a breeding ground for trying to give credence to complaining by claiming that "History" is on your side. Some of the works listed are only a few years old.

edited 27th Mar '12 1:57:08 PM by Catbert

SeptimusHeap Tadpole! from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Tadpole!
Mar 27th 2012 at 2:00:28 PM

And it has the umpteenth debate about YMMV in YKTTW.

I think that if we can't add some strong objective criteria to it, the guaranteed Opinion Creep will make it a TRS or cutlist guest.

lu127 Paper Master from 空蝉丸
Mar 27th 2012 at 2:12:43 PM

I have a strong urge to nuke that.

許さない 貴方だけを
Mar 27th 2012 at 2:50:35 PM

Insert joke about from orbit.

TheOneWhoTropes EVIL SORCERER RETURNS! from Newton-Le-Willows, England (Quaint Town) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
EVIL SORCERER RETURNS!
Mar 28th 2012 at 1:13:24 AM

[up]Obliged. EXTERMINATUS!

There are a lot of creepy actress, actor pages left. If I stumble upon one while doing other things, I'll let you know.

Damn - wrong thread. Then again, I could actually have to report it here as well, judging by Steven Seagal's page.

edited 28th Mar '12 1:21:26 AM by TheOneWhoTropes

Goblin King of the Darkstorm Galaxy.
Mar 29th 2012 at 9:07:10 PM

What about the page for I Now Pronounce You Chuck And Larry? It has quite a bit of negativity…but if it were to be removed, you'd end up nuking most of the content, and it's admittedly a very difficult movie to write about in a neutral tone.

BearyScary from A Planet That Looks Like It Has Chameleons Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Mar 29th 2012 at 10:31:26 PM

I'm all for making things less negative around here. The Steven Seagal "article" is a prime example of something in need of a rewrite or even a page lock, so that no one can sneak negativity back on there.

A few other examples of things that get bashed are The Secret Life Of The American Teenager (does it have "abysmal writing"? Possibly. Do we need to have that particular wisdom bequeathed to us even on the YMMV page? No.) and the Silent Hill page, albeit less so. I'm sure we'll come up with more examples. I'll try to cut/reword plain ol' bashing, should I encounter it on the wiki.

wuggles http://wugthepug.tumblr.com/ from Miami, FL Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Mar 31st 2012 at 12:07:52 PM

The page for Hush Hush is extremely negative, especially the YMMV page. We basically have 5 examples discussing how much some troper hates the main characters.

whizzerd workin' on it from Scotland Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
workin' on it
Mar 31st 2012 at 12:35:38 PM

Well, I cleaned up Seagal's page. Turns out the discussion for it isn't entirely nice either ("Yeah...why do I think it's Fast Eddie's fault? Oh, yeah, because Eddie always does shit like that." "Does Steven Seagal really need protection from a hatedom?"). The comments are from last year, but should I report it at ATT anyway?

reset myself and get back on track — goes by they/them, not he/him or she/her.
SeptimusHeap Tadpole! from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Tadpole!
Mar 31st 2012 at 12:39:26 PM

Yes, report it. Or holler it, linking to the dsicussion.

lu127 Paper Master from 空蝉丸
Apr 5th 2012 at 11:48:38 AM

Yeah, no. There's a reason Squick is exampleless.

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Komodin TV Tropes' Sonic Wiki Curator from Windy Hill Zone Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
TV Tropes' Sonic Wiki Curator
Apr 5th 2012 at 11:57:23 AM

Yeah, I can see that turning into a complaint-and-justifying-edit hive in no time flat. It should probably be scrapped or reworked extensively.

edited 5th Apr '12 11:57:33 AM by Komodin

Experience has taught me to investigate anything that glows.
Oreochan from Pennsylvania
Apr 5th 2012 at 12:28:44 PM

It appears that Steven T is repeatedly making these types of YKTT Ws. He should probably be warned in a pm to not do this again or he would most likely won't get access to YKTTW anymore .

edited 8th Apr '12 12:28:38 AM by Oreochan

"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
Apr 7th 2012 at 5:11:11 PM

Draft for Post Movie Rot: When the quality of a show suddenly goes downhill after the movie adaptation.

Keep or discard?

BearyScary from A Planet That Looks Like It Has Chameleons Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Apr 7th 2012 at 6:37:05 PM

That's not a trope, it's an audience reaction. It's like a more specific version of Seasonal Rot, so I say, ditch it. Will anyone really be entertained by reading about something like that? And not just a Hatedom.

lu127 Paper Master from 空蝉丸
Apr 8th 2012 at 12:26:18 AM

Steven T again? This person is showing a pattern by constantly coming up with complaining gateways.

許さない 貴方だけを
Apr 8th 2012 at 12:43:40 AM

Gentle personal messages to that address explaining that we are not about complaints would be order.smile

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
SeptimusHeap Tadpole! from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Tadpole!
Apr 8th 2012 at 3:20:48 PM

The page Robert Stanek was just reported on Ask The Tropers for having been hit by a vandal. I've repaired the vandalism and cleaned the example section, but someone should take a look at the description since it seems to be Creator Bashing.


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