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ElRigo I'm freezing! Send help! from Baja Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
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#1: Mar 6th 2012 at 2:28:09 AM

And I was thinking, its easy to dismiss jersey shore as a shining example of Horrendously stupid television, but what if they are actually quite skilled actors who, behind the scenes, behave like the nice and charming people we wish we had as friends? What if they are just pretending to be like that because they are playing a character?

What if The Situation is actually an avid reader and devoted Neil Gaiman fan?

What if Snooki writes poetry under a pen name?

What if they all played Dungeons and Dragons during their time off camera?

I am still not sure if this would be good or terrifying.

Carciofus Is that cake frosting? from Alpha Tucanae I Since: May, 2010
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#2: Mar 6th 2012 at 2:39:41 AM

It would still be a bad show.

Even if we somehow discovered that My Immortal is actually a lost work by John Keats, that would not change the fact that it is awful fanfiction; and analogously, even if the actors of JS were nice and talented people in Real Life, that would not change the fact that that show is worthless.

This said, perhaps it's just because I have never had to deal with Jersey Shore fans, but I do not really get why it is so hated. Yes, it is a "reality show". Yes, watching it is a waste of time and neurons, and I will admit that I am mildly annoyed by the image they project of "Italianity", but I just cannot manage to care about it that much.

This said, I laughed when I learned that Jersey Shore asked the city of Florence to let them film some episodes in the Uffizi Galleries, and the City said that they can forget about it.

edited 6th Mar '12 4:20:50 AM by Carciofus

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.
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#3: Mar 6th 2012 at 3:39:01 AM

It would still suck, yeah.

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#4: Mar 6th 2012 at 8:19:31 AM

Well, apparently the Situation lives around where I live, and I never hear anything negative about him from people who have encountered him. Doesn't make me want to watch the show any more than I did before, but eh. Reality shows are always deceptively edited anyway. They're probably much more boring than the producers would like us to think.

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ElRigo I'm freezing! Send help! from Baja Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
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#5: Mar 6th 2012 at 9:02:57 AM

Well, I never said it was a shining jewel of the wonders TV shows can produce. I am just saying, what if it is and those people are actually people and not the twisted caricatures they play?

HungryJoe Gristknife from Under the Tree Since: Dec, 2009
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#6: Mar 6th 2012 at 9:05:35 AM

They're all pretty much the same person on and off camera, it seems to me, the main difference between when they're on the show and when they're in an interview being sobriety.

I remember the whole non-reaction when Snooki said she was bi.

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Carciofus Is that cake frosting? from Alpha Tucanae I Since: May, 2010
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#7: Mar 6th 2012 at 9:08:21 AM

[up][up] I assume that they are.

This does not mean that I cannot find the "twisted caricatures" that they play annoying, especially since they paint an extremely poor image of my own nationality.

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.
HungryJoe Gristknife from Under the Tree Since: Dec, 2009
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#8: Mar 6th 2012 at 9:17:13 AM

Not so bad as you'd think, Car. They paint a bad picture of people from Jersey more than people with Italian blood. The Italian stereotype is largely dead on the East Coast, as is the Irish one. You hear Scarlatti or O'Hara, you think white dude you can make some jokes about, not somebody from Jersey Shore or a leprechaun.

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Carciofus Is that cake frosting? from Alpha Tucanae I Since: May, 2010
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#9: Mar 6th 2012 at 9:24:54 AM

Interesting. I assumed that they played a lot on the "italoamerican" part, what with the polemics on whether some of them "really" have an Italian ancestry (who cares, really?) and the fact that they want to film (or filmed already? I am not sure) the fourth season in Italy (as I mentioned, the major of Florence got pretty annoyed about that). But if you say that it is not the case, fair enough.

Still, that was just a minor personal concern. Even disregarding that, the characters that they present are wastes of perfectly good carbon chains and silicon atoms. I hope that nobody who watches the show is taking them as role models, but I am pretty sure that I'm going to be disappointed about this...

edited 6th Mar '12 9:30:09 AM by Carciofus

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.
HungryJoe Gristknife from Under the Tree Since: Dec, 2009
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#10: Mar 6th 2012 at 9:30:22 AM

Oh, so very dissapointed.

And they're trying to play up the Italian American thing for the "guidos." That is a real thing, people braying loudly about their Italian ancestry and trying to be the greasers but more pretentious.

For most of us, (myself included) Italian ancestry just means your mother or father has strong opinions on pasta.

Oh, and you go to the Columbus Day parade.

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#11: Mar 6th 2012 at 9:31:43 AM

As an Italian American New Jersean originally from Staten Island (from which most of them actually hail), I could still care less about them.

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#12: Mar 6th 2012 at 9:43:03 AM

Yeah, it's not something worth losing sleep about. I find it slightly annoying, but on a "oh, come on" level, nothing more.

By the way, I am perplexed at how "guido" became the description you mention. Back in Italy, it's just a name — a pretty common one, actually, if a little old-fashioned.

But still, that stereotype is at least better than the "mafioso" one. Baby steps, I suppose tongue.

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.
HungryJoe Gristknife from Under the Tree Since: Dec, 2009
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#13: Mar 6th 2012 at 9:44:13 AM

The only reality show I recall enjoying in recent years is Undercover Boss. People seemed to genuinely learn from their experiences and made things better as a result, without it being just touchy fell love fest.

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ElRigo I'm freezing! Send help! from Baja Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
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#14: Mar 12th 2012 at 12:45:11 AM

I wonder if any of those undercover bosses ended up getting out to get beers with the random guys they worked with.

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#15: Mar 12th 2012 at 8:43:43 AM

Bad TV is bad TV, regardless of whether the actors and actresses are nice people in real life.

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ElRigo I'm freezing! Send help! from Baja Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
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#16: Mar 12th 2012 at 10:40:04 AM

Oh, I can agree with that. And Jersey shore is probably one of the worse forms of entertainment humankind has produced.

Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#17: Mar 12th 2012 at 2:18:38 PM

Nah, nah.

You either want Made In Chelsea, The Only Way Is Essex, or Geordie Shore (like Jersey Shore, but set in the unglamourous city of Newcastle).

ElRigo I'm freezing! Send help! from Baja Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
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#18: Mar 12th 2012 at 2:21:12 PM

I dont get those over here. Thankfully.

Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#19: Mar 12th 2012 at 2:23:49 PM

Yeah, Made in Chelsea is like Beverly Hills, but Jersey Shore-like in nature. It's basically The Only Way Is Essex, but set in an upper-class area of London.

And The Only Wax Is Essex is like the Jersey Shore, but set in a small English county famed for its not-very-bright locals.

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#20: Mar 12th 2012 at 7:10:21 PM

Please, Seaside Heights (where they film Jersey Shore) is the absolute scuzziest place on the Jersey shore. Everywhere on the boardwalk is filthy, it's right near the ghetto, and the rides kinda suck.

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ElRigo I'm freezing! Send help! from Baja Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
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#21: Mar 12th 2012 at 11:58:03 PM

[up] Maybe its because they film Jersey Shore there?

0dd1 Just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2009
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#22: Mar 13th 2012 at 12:23:29 AM

No, I mean even before then.

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