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Sounds like a good plan.
I haven't yet played either Innocence or Bloodstained, but the other 3 (RE 2, Outer Worlds and Disco Elysium) were all among my personal favourites.
Might have to give those other two a go.
I think this is the first time I've disagreed with Jim so strongly. Other than Disco Elysium, I didn't really enjoy any of the games on the list, and there were others I thought deserved to be mentioned in their stead.
*shrug* It's not like you can agree with someone about everything. Jim was one of the people that really liked the DMC reboot for example, which a lot of people didn't like either.
Edited by Draghinazzo on Dec 23rd 2019 at 8:59:20 AM
Yeah, I know. It's just that his tastes and mine generally align, with the exception of his love for cheesy, so bad it's good stuff that I generally dislike. I find it amusing that for once I disagree with almost all of his choices.
Whats wrong with liking stuff thats cheesy? Not everything needs to be high art to be enjoyable. The show in my signature is proof of that.
Yeah, but sometimes I think Jim takes it a bit too far and just becomes obnoxious.
Mind you, that's my personal reaction to it. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with being cheesy, it's just not my particular taste.
And even then, I still find Deadly Premonition one of the best things to have happened to the gaming industry.
Deadly premonition as the reason SE and Yoko taro chose the studio behind it to work on Drakengard 3, for one...
Fallout 76 Players Were Getting Remotely Robbed By Hackers This Week
Fallout 76 players wanted to experience a desolate wasteland where what had once been an engaging society was reduced to a smoldering, unrecognizable husk. A lawless no man's zone where there are no rules and your every waking moment is at the mercy of the next guy.
If Bethesda had done it on purpose, Fallout 76 would be the greatest meta-joke in video game history.
Is this memes?
How the mighty have fallen.
But seriously, how does a company continue to mess up this badly? This consistently?
It was kind of funny in a schaudenfreudian kind of way at first but now it's just sad.
I'm starting to think they might not have been that great from the beginning, they've screwed over several developers and their games have been very bugy for years.
It is a combination of decades of not really caring about bugs, lack of respect for the ip, using an archaic engine, and giving a branch studio with little experience not nearly enough time to make the game out of old Fallout 4 assets.
I actually want 76 to be a byword for "fubar" as that perfectly deceives Fallout 76, plus 86 is the only number I know to be used as slang.
Add in an over reliance on the community to fix their bugs and that same fanbase (and reviewers*) being slavishly devoted and willing to overlook problems that they would lynch other developers over and this product is the result. They really expected people to roll over and accept it.
I maintain the notion that 76 is exactly the type of game its fanbase deserved. Maybe it'll be their wake up call
Edited by CryoJNik on Dec 27th 2019 at 7:04:04 AM
Bethesda has pretty much always been a company whose various shortcomings people tolerated because the games they made were fairly unique, and had redeeming qualities in their lore, worldbuilding and vast exploration. It was basically just assumed that a game of that scale was bound to be at least a little buggy so people tended to cut them some slack.
The thing is though, a sizable majority of games that come out nowadays is open world exploration of some sort, and while they may have bugs it's not nearly to the same level Bethesda does. Many of those games also have better visuals, art direction, writing, combat, and so on. They may not be exactly offer the same thing in terms of being totally open-ended, but it isn't as if they're so removed that there's no overlap. 76 was basically all the problems with Bethesda games but with none of the upsides, exposing just how flawed they have always been.
Edited by Draghinazzo on Dec 27th 2019 at 10:14:04 AM
Its why people are looking at Starfield and ES 6 with much more caution then before, too.
Fallout 76, even if it became very moddable and they allowed everything to go...
I'd never bother with it. Why? Because it's redundant. It's Fallout 4's regressed cousin that never asked to be made.
Why mod or try to polish Fallout 76 when you already have Skyrim or Fallout 4? Why frustrate yourself with another mess? It's something I said pages ago about modding. It's like with Fallout 3 and New Vegas when I think about it, New Vegas makes Fallout 3 mostly redundant despite my honest soft spot for it.
ES 6 or Starfield sure could benefit from a modified id tech 7 used for DOOM Eternal now...or an engine they made specifically for Bethesda-style open worlds, minus the bugs and the jank. They have talent they're not using
Edited by Dhiruxide on Dec 27th 2019 at 4:39:23 PM
The problem is Bethesda would have to train a bunch of people to use a new engine and develop a whole new workflow. They should have made that investment a long time ago and now they seem to feel it's too late and that their current engine and way of doing things is more efficient, even though it leads to shitty results.
Bethesda has been skating on arrogance for a long time, counting on fans to patch their games and basically ignoring the need for rigorous QA. It was bound to bite them sooner or later.
If only this happened during Steam Greenlight. It'd be perfect riffing material.
That just means they are heading to a cliff, I mean I do know of a case in which a company (Creative Assembly) changed the engine of their game. The first game with that engine (Empire Total War) was a mess, but they stuck to their guns and the next ones (Napoleon and Shogun 2) were pretty good.
Changing engines can lead to initial losses followed by greater gains.
But as we all know, no one gives a fuck about long term. Profits have to be NOW.
Beth's problem is that they expected to get by putting the minimal amount of effort into their games,they're effectively like a fast food joint in that regard,there's places that serve better food but Beth doesn't care,they know people always want to eat something,and it doesn't matter what they're eating so long as it tastes nice and they can afford it
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