Point them to "Not A Subversion" which addresses that.
I still say it should be outright renamed to Bait And Switch Trope, as that's a better qualifier for what it does. I know that's not for this thread, or even likely to happen. I'm just stating that would help people know better what is and isn't a subversion.
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.Upon cleaning up Moral Guardians, I noticed people were listing examples as subversions... that were Real Life examples. *facepalm*
I wonder if it would be possible to change the Natter-fy button to a more general button that gives you a list of form P Ms to select from. Such as one about natter, one about Repair Dont Respond, one about Example Indentation, one about Playing with a Trope, one about Word Cruft, etc.
edited 8th Feb '12 2:27:58 PM by ccoa
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.Those would be nice.
At a quick glance Word Cruft looks like War Craft.
"Did anybody invent this stuff on purpose?" - Phillip Marlowe on tequila, Finger Man by Raymond Chandler.I've been wondering that! That would be great.
edited 8th Feb '12 2:54:17 PM by Ghilz
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and ^: Yes. There are mistakes that tropers just have to repeat over and over again and Natter is only one of them. Example Indentation In Trope Lists is another annoying one.
Anyway, that tech proposal goes into Tech Wishlist
edited 8th Feb '12 2:35:56 PM by SeptimusHeap
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanI could support expanding the "natterfy" button to a general "notify editor of [insert faux pas here]". Heck, my writing style is formal enough I could even provide some of the messages.
An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.Ghilz was nice enough to start a Tech Wishlist thread for it
, so we can garner volunteers/support/ideas there.
Oh, you can subvert More Dakka alright. You just have to set up the expectation in your audience, then defy it.
For example, have a hulking bruiser carry a huge, 36 barrel gun. They take aim, and the barrels start spinning around at high speed.
And the gun goes
Thupathupathupathupathupathup... plib
and spits out a single pellet.
Which causes a huge explosion.
edited 10th Feb '12 11:46:06 AM by Desertopa
...eventually, we will reach a maximum entropy state where nobody has their own socks or underwear, or knows who to ask to get them back.
Or it turns out the gun is deliberately designed to look bigger than it is for intimidation purposes (the intent being to scare the enemy into running away before they realise it's actually just a normal gun with a collossal number of barrels). 'Long as the audience isn't told that before the characters faced with the gun, it would still be a subversion I think?

Oh, those are definitely bad. I was merely presenting hypothetical ways in which it could happen, basically to show it's possible to subvert rule of cool tropes. You just have to be creative, and still follow the proper definition of Subverted Trope.
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.