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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#76: Feb 21st 2012 at 2:27:03 PM

[up]Of course. I meant going for witty alone, and hoping it catches on despite the lack of clarity. A name that does all three is awesome because then it's both catchy and indicates the trope.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#77: Feb 21st 2012 at 2:29:37 PM

I have to note that Xanatos Gambit and Narm aren't really particularly clear on what they mean.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#78: Feb 21st 2012 at 2:38:39 PM

[up]Well one does have some misuse, which also was due to a bad description and lack of sister tropes, but I still stand by that it's better to go for clarity and witty if we want terms to catch on, and catch on correctly.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
I see the Awesomeness.
#79: Feb 21st 2012 at 9:41:36 PM

The problem is the attempt by fans to try and get their favorite work or quote to become a title as a way to pimp the work, as opposed to the trope.

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Spark9 Since: Nov, 2010
#80: Feb 23rd 2012 at 9:23:54 AM

The name "Xanatos gambit" is not particularly witty, though. We keep it because it works, not because it's witty.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#81: Feb 23rd 2012 at 10:59:24 AM

^By Rule of Cool, it would be witty, especially if you add Xtremely Kool Letterz.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#82: Feb 23rd 2012 at 11:20:37 AM

So umm, I just spotted a new thread on Princess Curls and instead of "TRS Discussion", it said "Discussion" on the page.

Is it a new system or a bug?

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#83: Feb 23rd 2012 at 11:32:56 AM

That's a periodic bug with IP.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#84: Feb 23rd 2012 at 11:34:26 AM

[up] No, it's definitely TRS. Check Princess Curls.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#85: Feb 23rd 2012 at 11:36:59 AM

Wow, so it's now a bug with both?

Yes, I've seen it several times with IP threads. That's the first time I see it with TRS.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#86: Feb 23rd 2012 at 11:41:16 AM

[up][up][up]Not applicable, since the name it's based on doesn't do that trope.

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Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#88: Feb 23rd 2012 at 1:51:15 PM

[up][up][up][up] Now it says "Repair Shop Discussion". I suspect it's something Eddie's doing purposely. "Repair Shop Discussion" is a lot less opaque than "TRS Discussion".

Spark9 Since: Nov, 2010
#89: Feb 24th 2012 at 3:06:35 PM

Question for you folks...

I recently came across the trope Gayngster, which sounds like it's related to the trope Gayngst but it's really not. Do people think it is a good idea if tropes have similar names like these?

And another question, what about pages like The Trope Formerly Known as X? Is "trope as a placeholder" still deprecated?

edited 24th Feb '12 4:11:22 PM by Spark9

Martello Hammer of the Pervs from Black River, NY Since: Jan, 2001
Hammer of the Pervs
#90: Feb 24th 2012 at 4:22:52 PM

You might want to start a Trope Talk thread for Gayngster instead of discussing it here. I'd say the name is fine.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#91: Mar 1st 2012 at 3:19:02 PM

Returning to the original topic, I think that fixing the stale threads might take an autoclock.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#92: Mar 2nd 2012 at 12:22:21 PM

The Trope Formerly Known as X was given a free pass during the mass clean-up of the trope as placeholder tropes. Whether that pass is still in effect, I don't know.

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#93: Mar 3rd 2012 at 4:22:13 AM

Bumping, because I noticed something: There are 20 or so crowners in TRS that are call-able

, but don't get called. What is to do with them?

And before anybody says to holler them, I'd like to have some staff opinion before hollering 20 crowners, especially since I'm not very creative at writing crowner call request hollers.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#94: Mar 4th 2012 at 4:10:52 AM

Bump. I'd really like to have an answer here.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Madrugada Since: Jan, 2001
#95: Mar 4th 2012 at 5:50:32 AM

Holler them. Just don't holler them all in one big clump. Give us five or so at a time, please, and you dont have to be wildly creative, just including the page name would be enough. Something like "Crowner on <foo> appears stable. can it be called?" will do.

edited 4th Mar '12 5:51:59 AM by Madrugada

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#96: Mar 4th 2012 at 5:53:37 AM

Thanks, especially the number part. Should not be too hard to wait until one 5 batch has been replied to before sending another.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Spark9 Since: Nov, 2010
#97: Mar 20th 2012 at 10:52:49 AM

[up][up] Oh good, that's what I've been doing intermittently.

Anyway, the fact that 120 out of 500 threads can get underused enough to be auto-locked proves that we have too many threads open at the same time in TRS. I suggest reducing the cap to 250.

ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth Since: Oct, 2011
#98: Mar 20th 2012 at 10:56:04 AM

[up]I agree 100%, though I'd prefer a cap of 300 by way of 400.

Just deleting threads doesn't get rid of the problems they were opened to address. Threads get ignored because there are simply too many threads to pay attention to them all at once. Being ignored doesn't automatically mean that a thread isn't necessary, it just means that too few people have their attention spread too thin over too many things.

Focus will make the individual threads resolve faster, and focus will help get the work done that needs doing, that often clogs TRS threads at the end.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#99: Mar 20th 2012 at 10:56:18 AM

I think finding the ideal number would need a sort of graphic depicting the posting activity/thread ranking on the TRS page.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Spark9 Since: Nov, 2010
#100: Mar 20th 2012 at 11:05:46 AM

[up] Sure, but it needs to be lower than the current one, since we've just been shown that 25% of all threads get lost in the shuffle.


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