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This thread is for general discussion of page quotes, whether to change, move or remove them.

Unused quotes should be put on a Quotes Wiki page (just replace the namespace in the URL of the wiki page you are making a quotes page for with Quotes/) or, if they don't have an article, on Quotes Looking for an Article.

Image captions are discussed elsewhere and have their own thread in the Image Pickin' forum.

Edited by Tabs on Jul 15th 2023 at 2:40:54 AM

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
he/him
#12001: Jan 14th 2024 at 12:19:27 PM

From Ultimate Spider-Man (2024):

"Twenty years ago, the Maker prevented a radioactive spider from biting Peter Parker. He likewise prevented the creation of any other super heroes and formed a secret council to rule the world from the shadows. When Tony Stark learned the dark history of his universe, he sought to undo it— prompting the Maker's Council to attack Manhattan, killing thousands, and frame Stark for it. Peter Parker has lived his life unaware of the Maker's Council or the truth behind the spider, but that is about to change..."

So, only one issue of the series is out so far, and this version of Peter Parker isn't even Spider-Man until the last few pages.

The quote seems long, and the explanation of the basic premise just duplicates the article intro.

I'd like to cut it and wait until we've got something short and snappy that reflects the direction of the series. Views?

Adept (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#12002: Jan 14th 2024 at 7:25:18 PM

Poetic Serial Killer is currently being discussed on IP because the image showed neither the "poetic" nor the "serial" aspect of the trope. I say the quote have the exact same issue, if not worse. It relies on the additional "caption" to show why it's "poetic" and it's not clear that person talking is actually a killer, much less a Serial Killer.

DoktorvonEurotrash Since: Jan, 2001
#12003: Jan 15th 2024 at 3:22:50 AM

[up]Agreed, far too reliant on context.

BKelly95 Since: Jan, 2001
#12004: Jan 15th 2024 at 10:32:36 AM

An editor named Decaf Grub 47393 is deleting multiple entries from SignatureLine.Live Action Film with the reason "Having too many quotes for Signature Lines means they don't stand out as much". In the ATT query I raised, it was suggested bringing the editor to this thread to see if this is something that needs consensus.

Riolugirl Rookie Trope Repairer from whence you came, you shall remain... (Experienced Trainee) Relationship Status: It's a god-awful small affair
#12005: Jan 15th 2024 at 3:51:32 PM

[up]Wanting to prioritise quality over quantity is understandable, but IMHO if the page isn't long enough to raise concerns about a split, I'm not too worried.

"As long as I have my comrades with me, I can do anything!" (She/Her) (Current Focus: Cleaning Hell Is That Noise misuse)
Wasabi2 Since: May, 2023
#12006: Jan 15th 2024 at 5:05:11 PM

Current for Engineered Heroics doesn't really capture the trope IMO, and seems more about a character causing destruction to reap the economic benefits of war, not being framed as a hero for stopping problems they intentionally caused to get good publicity. The quote does mention Frost solving their own problem but doesn't really frame them as being treated as a hero for it.

IMO, I think the quote from The Incredibles works better.

Syndrome: Huh? Huh? Oh come on, you gotta admit this is cool. Just like a movie! The robot will emerge dramatically, do some damage. Throngs of screaming people! And just when all hope is lost, Syndrome will save the day! I'll be a bigger hero than you ever were!
Mr. Incredible: You mean you killed off real heroes so that you could... PRETEND TO BE ONE?!
Syndrome: Oh, I'm real. Real enough to defeat you! And I did it all without your precious gifts; your "oh-so-special" powers! I’ll give them heroics. I’ll give them the most spectacular heroics anyone’s ever seen! And when I’m old and I’ve had my fun, I’ll sell my inventions so that everyone can be superheroes. Everyone can be super! And when everyone’s super... (laughs evilly) no one will be.

Edited by Wasabi2 on Jan 15th 2024 at 8:05:26 AM

If all else fails, use fire.
MurlocAggroB from the second-most ridiculous province of Canada Since: May, 2015
Wasabi2 Since: May, 2023
#12008: Jan 15th 2024 at 5:27:56 PM

How about a truncated version?

Syndrome: ...The robot will emerge dramatically, do some damage. Throngs of screaming people! And just when all hope is lost, Syndrome will save the day! I'll be a bigger hero than you ever were!
Mr. Incredible: You mean you killed off real heroes so that you could... PRETEND TO BE ONE?!

Edited by Wasabi2 on Jan 15th 2024 at 8:28:27 AM

If all else fails, use fire.
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MyFinalEdits Officially intimidated from Parts Unknown (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Officially intimidated
#12010: Jan 15th 2024 at 6:01:19 PM

Much better. [tup]

135 - 169 - 273 - 191 - 188 - 230 - 300
jandn2014 Very Spooky from somewhere in Connecticut Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
Libraryseraph Showtime! from Canada (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: Raising My Lily Rank With You
Showtime!
#12012: Jan 15th 2024 at 7:29:18 PM

Truncated version looks good

Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?
Lindo-Honorindo WOOOOOOW Since: Apr, 2020 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
WOOOOOOW
#12013: Jan 15th 2024 at 9:37:28 PM

A quote suggestion for Eyelash Fluttering I pulled from the examples folder, what do you think?

"If you play your cards right, all you have to do is flutter your eyelids and smile and you can get anything you want."
Mrs. Slocombe, Are You Being Served?

My favorite sci fi enemies are the giant sexy depressed women
jandn2014 Very Spooky from somewhere in Connecticut Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
Lindo-Honorindo WOOOOOOW Since: Apr, 2020 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
WOOOOOOW
#12015: Jan 15th 2024 at 10:17:06 PM

It's in!

A quote that I think could use a swap is for Casanova Wannabe, it's just a dumb pickup line with no context and doesn't really describe what the trope is about. For the sake of description, I much prefer the Big Bang Theory quote from the Quotes page, but tell me what you think

My favorite sci fi enemies are the giant sexy depressed women
Hello83433 (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#12016: Jan 15th 2024 at 11:32:38 PM

[up] I'd say either that or the Mulan quote are good replacements.


Potential page quote for Monster Brother, Cutie Sister, thoughts?
[The men] had only heard stories about you, and since you're the Captain's sister... let's just say they were expecting someone more along the lines of his build ... aside from not being what they expected, we don't get to interact with a lot of pretty women in our line of work...
Piers' email to Claire Redfield, Resident Evil: Revelations 2

CSP Cleanup Thread | All that I ask for ... is diamonds and dance floors
Andariel Never Found from Disappeared never to be seen again (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Never Found
#12017: Jan 16th 2024 at 5:37:45 AM

The quote on Angst Dissonance is unreasonably long.

"A pair of Oxen were drawing a heavily loaded wagon along a miry country road. They had to use all their strength to pull the wagon, but they did not complain. The Wheels of the wagon were of a different sort. Though the task they had to do was very light compared with that of the Oxen, they creaked and groaned at every turn. The poor Oxen, pulling with all their might to draw the wagon through the deep mud, had their ears filled with the loud complaining of the Wheels. And this, you may well know, made their work so much the harder to endure. 'Silence!' the Oxen cried at last, out of patience. 'What have you Wheels to complain about so loudly? We are drawing all the weight, not you, and we are keeping still about it besides.'"

"They complain most who suffer least."
The Oxen and the Wheels, Aesop's Fables


Do we really need the huge first paragraph that retells the entire fable? I think the last line on its own would be suffient, since it's fairly illustrative and to-the-point

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Theriocephalus Amateur Veteran from gimme a map and a moment and I can tell you Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
he/him
#12020: Jan 16th 2024 at 6:08:11 AM

Any more thoughts on this Spider-Man one?

Andariel Never Found from Disappeared never to be seen again (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Never Found
#12021: Jan 16th 2024 at 6:24:08 AM

[up] I agree that it feels redundant to the description, but I don't know if no quote at all would be better. (I don't have any strong feelings either way.)

Maybe we can replace it with a part of Tony Stark's message from the quotes page?

"You were supposed to have a different life, Peter Parker. You were supposed to protect the innocent, save lives, and inspire the citizens of this world to be their best selves. And instead, all of that was taken from you. These people stole your future. These people robbed you of your destiny. The question is... do you want it back?"

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
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#12022: Jan 16th 2024 at 6:34:11 AM

Yeah, I like that. Either in full or up to "their best selves".

Bullman "Cool. Coolcoolcool." Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
#12023: Jan 16th 2024 at 9:09:08 AM

I have a question about the quote on

"Thanos. He's a plague, Tony. He invades planets, he takes what he wants, he wipes out half the population. He sent Loki! The attack on New York—that's him!"

The quote itself is fine but my problem is all of the links as we aren't supposed to link quotes at the top of pages. Am I good to remove the links?

Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
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#12024: Jan 16th 2024 at 10:32:02 AM

[up] The only links allowed are to "a work or genre which is referenced directly", and I don't think a character page link is allowed under that rule. The potholes definitely aren't.

I vote to cut 'em.

MisterApes-a-lot Since: Mar, 2018
#12025: Jan 17th 2024 at 7:57:12 AM

The "page quote" for Creator.Raul Julia is an in-jokey reference to a movie quote of his, as opposed to an actual quote.

"For tropers, the day Raúl Juliá got an article in TV Tropes was the most important day of TV Tropes' history. But for him... it was Tuesday."

Should it be formatted like a quote or just a regular line?

Projects: Long Term/Perpetual: Monster.FanWorks quote
4th May '24 2:04:01 PM

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What should be the page quote for Monster.Fan Works?

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