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This thread is for general discussion of page quotes, whether to change, move or remove them.

Unused quotes should be put on a Quotes Wiki page (just replace the namespace in the URL of the wiki page you are making a quotes page for with Quotes/).

Image captions are discussed elsewhere and have their own thread in the Image Pickin' forum.

Edited by wingedcatgirl on Jun 10th 2024 at 5:50:24 AM

PlasmaPower Piece of Cake. Since: Jan, 2015
Piece of Cake.
#11926: Dec 18th 2023 at 10:38:23 PM

Do we really need a real life folder in the quotes page for Fan Dumb? I feel like that’s asking for trouble.

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AudioSpeaks2 Since: Apr, 2022
#11927: Dec 18th 2023 at 10:41:00 PM

Ignore

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Dec 19th 2023 at 6:47:50 PM

molokai198 Since: Oct, 2012
#11928: Dec 19th 2023 at 12:23:25 PM

The Going Cosmic quote doesn't give any indication that the story it was from was at first "mundane" and only later tackled philosophical or theological themes, do others agree it should be removed?

Noaqiyeum we must dissent (it/they) from across the gulf of space (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
we must dissent (it/they)
#11929: Dec 19th 2023 at 12:36:55 PM

[up] I agree.

(Also, I disagree with removing the Sexual Harassment and Rape Tropes quote. It establishes a good baseline perspective from which to consider all the tropes linked in the index.)

Edited by Noaqiyeum on Dec 19th 2023 at 8:37:22 PM

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ShaiPa Since: Aug, 2013
PlasmaPower Piece of Cake. Since: Jan, 2015
Piece of Cake.
#11931: Dec 19th 2023 at 12:47:29 PM

[up][up] Isn’t that baseline perspective "rape is a serious matter", forgive me for saying this, but I don’t see any value in keeping it.

Edited by PlasmaPower on Dec 19th 2023 at 12:49:54 PM

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Noaqiyeum we must dissent (it/they) from across the gulf of space (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
we must dissent (it/they)
#11932: Dec 19th 2023 at 1:13:12 PM

I'm glad you think it's obvious, but the trope list itself includes a variety of tones writers apply to sexual harassment so clearly it isn't actually self-evident. It certainly isn't so bad that no quote at all is an improvement.

If you recognised that you should come to the thread to ask for support to cut it, then you shouldn't have cut it anyway after the only person to respond disagreed.

Edited by Noaqiyeum on Dec 19th 2023 at 9:13:49 AM

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NoUsername she's only programmed to be very nice Since: May, 2012
she's only programmed to be very nice
#11933: Dec 19th 2023 at 1:32:40 PM

hoping it's not too much of a problem but i shuffled some quotes related to the "memes" speech from Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance and removed a duplicate in the process. Memes.Metal Gear and Memetics in Fiction used to have the same quote; both of those now have new quotes from the same source, and i moved the former quote on Memetic Mutation, the thesis from richard dawkins, to UsefulNotes.Memetics where i felt it was more fitting as a serious explanation of memetics. then i moved the "memes" speech to Memetic Mutation, as it sums up the trope nicely by being a meme about memes, and being in a prominent place will likely prevent it from being duplicated again. normally i don't do this kind of thing without asking but i didn't think it would be much of a difference here. sorry if it's any trouble.

Edited by NoUsername on Dec 19th 2023 at 1:33:23 AM

RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
#11934: Dec 19th 2023 at 9:43:05 PM

[up]Your changes seem fine to me.


Bumping a suggestion of mine.

Edited by RandomTroper123 on Dec 19th 2023 at 9:43:20 AM

TantaMonty Since: Aug, 2017
#11935: Dec 20th 2023 at 5:50:05 AM

House of M has this:

"What is there to say? Put her down."
Emma Frost, coming up with a solution to Wanda's mental illness.

The problems:

  • The quote is not representative of the work's actual plot. Emma does propose Murder Is the Best Solution in the first chapter, but her suggestion is immediately shot down and forgotten afterwards.
  • The person who said the quote isn't proposing murder as "a solution to mental illness", she is trying to prevent a severely mentally unstable, borderline omnipotent person from destroying reality.
  • The quote was quite clearly added to complain about Emma Frost's character, and was written by a troper who was notorious for adding passive-aggressive remarks and rude comments to other pages.
  • "No More Mutants" is the work's Signature Line and well-known even among Marvel fans who have never read House of M. I would like to add it as a replacement.

Any objections?

Noaqiyeum we must dissent (it/they) from across the gulf of space (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#11937: Dec 20th 2023 at 4:37:46 PM

[up][up][up], [up][up]: [tup]

Edited by Twiddler on Dec 20th 2023 at 4:37:55 AM

RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
#11938: Dec 20th 2023 at 7:33:40 PM

[up](x3) I'm not sure if the current is complaining but, regardless if it is or not, your replacement and reasoning for doing so sounds reasonable to me.

[up]Thanks and I'll add it sometime. EDIT: Done.

Edited by RandomTroper123 on Dec 21st 2023 at 7:19:11 AM

AudioSpeaks2 Since: Apr, 2022
#11939: Dec 21st 2023 at 3:14:14 AM

Is it just me or is there something wrong/weird with the way Quotes.Hamilton is formatted?

ShaiPa Since: Aug, 2013
#11940: Dec 21st 2023 at 8:00:53 AM

[up] Yeah, Quotes pages are typically indented rather than bullet points.

RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
#11941: Dec 21st 2023 at 7:19:30 PM

[up][up]No, it's not just you.

MisterApes-a-lot Since: Mar, 2018
#11942: Dec 23rd 2023 at 12:03:43 PM

Not sure if I should go to this thread or "Is this an example?", but I wanted to ask if this quote on Quotes.Lost Aesop actually demonstrates a Lost Aesop:

Every actor to have played the Doctor eventually hits the episode where they go on complete autopilot. Capaldi deftly avoided it in Under the Lake/Before the Flood, where it would have been easy, but here, forced to do the same sort of filler dialogue only with the added constraint of having to stare down a camera lens for most of it he finally finds himself defeated by a script...by the time he has to wistfully quote Macbeth and then deliver an urgent moral lecture on the importance of sleep he has visibly just given up caring about anything but what’s for lunch.
El Sandifer on Doctor Who, "Sleep No More"

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#11943: Dec 23rd 2023 at 3:11:08 PM

Howard the Duck has two quotes:

Trapped in a world he never made!
— Original Tagline

Trapped in a world he's grown accustomed to.

I prefer the second one personally.

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mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#11944: Dec 23rd 2023 at 4:28:55 PM

I think the second quote only makes sense with the context of the first as its playing off the original tag line.

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Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Hfxjfrvnn Since: Jan, 2021
#11946: Dec 24th 2023 at 7:29:04 AM

The current on Scream VI is a trailer line that I'm pretty sure isn't in the final movie, and it's also pretty generic and doesn't say much about what the movie's about. I think this is a better one for highlighting the killer's motive.

Jason Carvey: But, we have to finish the movie...
Ghostface: Who gives a fuck about movies!?

Edited by Hfxjfrvnn on Dec 24th 2023 at 7:31:36 AM

MurlocAggroB from the second-most ridiculous province of Canada Since: May, 2015
#11947: Dec 25th 2023 at 11:55:43 AM

Master of Unlocking has the same trope namer, image source, and quote source. Of those, I think the quote is the least illustrative. I'd like to replace it for variety's sake.

Here's a replacement from the Quotes page:

"Nothing's ever locked."
Jack Wilder, Now You See Me

regulation pigeon
MyFinalEdits Delete message from Parts Unknown (Spin-off Series) Relationship Status: Cast away
Delete message
#11948: Dec 25th 2023 at 12:23:01 PM

[up]In the absence of a better suggestion, I support it.

135 -> 180 -> 273 -> 191 -> 188 -> 230 -> 300 -> 311
FoolsEditAccount Since: Oct, 2010
#11949: Dec 25th 2023 at 12:52:16 PM

The current quote for God Is Evil needs to be changed, as it's an example of Rage Against the Heavens, not the page trope. God Is Evil requires a god actually being evil, not just characters saying they are.

I propose a quote from Shin Megami Tensei II, as it's one of the more well-known examples of God Is Evil:

"Not even a thousand deaths would be fitting punishment for thy sins! I shall smite thee, and in Hell I shall torture thee over and over! After an aeon, I shall reincarnate thee, and thy lives shall be those of endless torment, thy bodies tortured in life and thy souls in death! The same shall come to thy children, and thy children's children, throughout all eternity until the end of time!"
YHVH, Shin Megami Tensei II

Edited by FoolsEditAccount on Dec 25th 2023 at 3:53:44 PM

Noaqiyeum we must dissent (it/they) from across the gulf of space (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
we must dissent (it/they)
#11950: Dec 25th 2023 at 12:56:23 PM

[up][up][up] That... doesn't obviously have anything to do with the trope, though. The one right below it on the quotes page is much better.

"Oh, I can pick that open easy!"
Tomi Undergallows, Neverwinter Nights

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