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This thread is for general discussion of page quotes, whether to change, move or remove them.

Unused quotes should be put on a Quotes Wiki page (just replace the namespace in the URL of the wiki page you are making a quotes page for with Quotes/).

Image captions are discussed elsewhere and have their own thread in the Image Pickin' forum.

Edited by wingedcatgirl on Jun 10th 2024 at 5:50:24 AM

antenna_ears from California Since: Apr, 2020 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#11201: Jun 18th 2023 at 8:43:58 PM

The current for Monstrous Cannibalism isn’t really indicative of the trope by itself and relies on the description to give context.

"Looks like meat's back on our menu, boys!"
Uglúk (after cutting off the head of another orc), The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers

The only quote from the quote page I thought was short enough and works on its own was from Ahh Real monsters:

Nicky: I thought you said monsters didn't eat humans.
Oblina: True, but I never said we don't eat other monsters.

KingofNightmares Since: Aug, 2016 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
HithertoAnIPAddress The only good BETA is a dead BETA. from Yokohama Base Since: Feb, 2013
The only good BETA is a dead BETA.
#11204: Jun 19th 2023 at 5:17:37 PM

Requesting consideration for a shift in the bottom quote for RWBY V9 E8 "Tea Amidst Terrible Trouble". While spoilers are unmarked as a rule for the recap pages for that work, I'll encase the quotes and other material in spoiler tags below, partially due to the sensitive themes involved (suicide, ego death).

Context: In this episode, the main character, Ruby Rose (who the top and bottom quotes currently come from, is subjected to a Breaking Speech by an antagonist (whose power is to make lifelike clones of people), and as a result is driven to undergo "ascension" - a process which was (Watsonian) contested in meaning (Reincarnation, Cessation of Existence or both) but is known to involve ego death and (Doylist) visually coded as a suicide.

Her current top quote (not requested for change) is:

"I promised to serve Atlas as a Huntress... That I'd keep people safe... That I'd be there for my friends..."
Ruby Rose

Her current bottom quote (change requested) is:

"I don't want to be me anymore."
Ruby Rose

The proposed bottom quote, part of the antagonist's Breaking Speech, is:

"Do you really think you can stand to watch more of your friends fall?
Or are you ready to admit the truth...
that the world would just be better off without you?"
Roman Torchwick (clone)

Thank you.

(edited for more details)

Edited by HithertoAnIPAddress on Jun 19th 2023 at 5:38:31 AM

Would you like to know more?
Malady (X-Troper)
#11205: Jun 19th 2023 at 5:57:07 PM

Can't find a trace of Unacceptable Targets' quote on the internet. How sure are we that it exists? It was added in 2013.

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Yindee Just stoic wisdom. from New England Since: Jul, 2016
Just stoic wisdom.
#11206: Jun 19th 2023 at 9:35:41 PM

Unsure if there's somewhere better to put this, but I came across Quotes.Wedgie and feel like it'll need keeping an eye on. I already sent a formatting notifier with an added attempt at explaining how to format quotes, but I'm not sure that'll change things. Most of these quotes are just web articles that discuss wedgies. Any thoughts on this, or is this outside the scope of this thread?

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johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#11207: Jun 20th 2023 at 4:51:26 PM

[up]Oof, what a mess. Reads like it was edited by someone with a, ehm... fixation on the subject. I think we can go ahead and delete a few of those (in particular the Wikipedia quote that just describes what a wedgie is) and reformat anything worth keeping.


Reposting the following because they didn't get a response (or if they did I missed it):

The quote on Thong of Shielding seems to just be two people stammering over someone attractive wearing a thong. A quote that says something about a thong being close to nudity might be good, but short of that I'd be in favour of just getting rid of the current one, it just comes across as pervy.


The quote for I Will Only Slow You Down is almost word-for-word the same parody of the trope as appears in the page image. Propose this instead:

Milhouse: I can't go on... You two go ahead — and carry me with you!

themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him
#11208: Jun 20th 2023 at 5:00:02 PM

[up]

Reads like it was edited by someone with a, ehm... fixation on the subject.

Matitya wrote most of the page. If I get a chance I'll see if they're making similar lewd edits on other pages (and report them to ATT if they are) — I know they got reported in ATT a while back over unrelated political agenda-related concerns.

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johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#11209: Jun 20th 2023 at 5:32:22 PM

I cleaned up the Quotes page and reformmatted a couple that seemed like they legitimately belong there.

[up]There's a whole bunch of edits on the same topic across different pages, though tbf the entries themselves don't seem particularly inappropriate; to be charitable it could just be a case of zealous crosswicking by a Single-Issue Wonk.

EndarkCuli (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
#11210: Jun 20th 2023 at 9:42:59 PM

Proposal to add a quote to the top of the Jumping the Gender Barrier page:

Ryu: I like you.
Ryu: Like, like you, like you.
Ryu: It kinda clicked for me after I turned into a girl and stuff.
Ryu: And isn't like, "boyfriend" the next level of "best friend" if you think about it?
Ryu: No deeper bond than a guy friend turning into his other guy friend's girlfriend.
Fight Like a Girl, by The Transformistress

I'm currently formatting the quote this way to match the source material, in which it's five text messages in a row from a single account. Posting here because, one, I'm uncertain whether to include the whole quotation or just the final one/two lines, and two, the quote source has an associated image that's stated to be SFW but still considered by the host site to contain themes not suitable to all viewers without an account, so I'm not 100% sure if this will even be eligible.

NoUsername she's only programmed to be very nice Since: May, 2012
she's only programmed to be very nice
#11211: Jun 21st 2023 at 2:43:37 AM

since the quote's author has their own page on this site it's probably fine. i really like the quote as-is and i think the formatting is fine

EndarkCuli (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
#11212: Jun 21st 2023 at 8:38:39 AM

Alright then, added. Thank you for the second opinion.

Yindee Just stoic wisdom. from New England Since: Jul, 2016
Just stoic wisdom.
#11213: Jun 21st 2023 at 1:35:48 PM

Kind of Blue has two quotes. Which to keep?

"That will always be my music, man. I play Kind of Blue every day - it's my orange juice. It still sounds like it was made yesterday."

"It's one thing to just play a tune, or play a program of music, but it's another thing to practically create a new language of music, which is what Kind of Blue did."
Chick Corea

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DongwaChan (Apprentice)
#11214: Jun 21st 2023 at 2:21:34 PM

[up] The first one by Quincy Jones.

Edited by DongwaChan on Jun 21st 2023 at 5:21:46 AM

badtothebaritone (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Snooping as usual
#11216: Jun 21st 2023 at 4:56:45 PM

I Fell for Hours has the page quote come from Super Mario World, which is also the Trope Namer. The quotes page has a few good replacements:

Carmen: How long have we been falling?
Juni: (looks at watch) I don't know. My watch doesn't tell time.
Carmen: Best guess.
Juni: I'd say about three hours.
Carmen: Feels like four.

"I have been FALLING for THIRTY MINUTES!!"
Loki, Thor: Ragnarok

Down, down, down. Would the fall never come to an end?

MyFinalEdits Delete message from Parts Unknown (Spin-off Series) Relationship Status: Cast away
Delete message
#11217: Jun 21st 2023 at 5:23:12 PM

Voting for Spy Kids 2 here.

135 -> 180 -> 273 -> 191 -> 188 -> 230 -> 300 -> 311
Noaqiyeum we must dissent (it/they) from across the gulf of space (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
ShaiPa Since: Aug, 2013
EndarkCuli (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
#11220: Jun 21st 2023 at 9:47:59 PM

I think the Alice quote is pithier, but I'm also willing to support the Spy Kids quote as well as the original from Super Mario World because they literally did (or at least felt like they did in-universe) "Fall for Hours".

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#11221: Jun 22nd 2023 at 7:12:10 AM

A general policy question - when a work isn't episodic, does a quote on its own page still need to include the work name as well as the character name?

Administrivia's text formatting page suggests it does.

Just thinking of examples like NIMONA (2023) - the quote is from the title character, but should it be attributed to the work, or can we skip that bit if it seems self-evident?

selkies TOO serious! from Guess, guess, guess Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
TOO serious!
#11222: Jun 22nd 2023 at 10:07:24 AM

BTS' quote changed as seen here without discussion apparently.

  • We can revert to the old one since it's more fitting to be a page quote:

Do your thang
Do your thang with me now
Do your thang
Do your thang with me now
What's my thang?
What's my thang, tell me now...
— "Black Swan"

Comfort, got them
Principles, got them
Good music, got them
Good team? Goddamn!
— "Run BTS"

  • Or RM's UN speech:

"No matter who you are, where you're from, your skin color, gender identity: speak yourself."
RM's UN General Assembly speech

Which quote is more interesting to a non-fan?

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Yindee Just stoic wisdom. from New England Since: Jul, 2016
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#11225: Jun 22nd 2023 at 3:54:25 PM

On a similar note to the Nimona query above - the quote on the Creator.Alan Moore page was attributed to Alan Moore, but a troper's just deleted the attribution.

Should we restore it?


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