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This thread is for general discussion of page quotes, whether to change, move or remove them.

Unused quotes should be put on a Quotes Wiki page (just replace the namespace in the URL of the wiki page you are making a quotes page for with Quotes/).

Image captions are discussed elsewhere and have their own thread in the Image Pickin' forum.

Edited by wingedcatgirl on Jun 10th 2024 at 5:50:24 AM

Necrowonomicon Since: Mar, 2023
#10651: Mar 17th 2023 at 9:43:29 AM

Can I just say that I don't like the current page quote for Monster.Pokemon? One, it's long. Two, I'm not a fan of a singular villain getting both the page image and the page quote. It just gives too much bias. Here's a quote I think would be better:

"I still can't get over (Hunter) J...how cruel can you get? And to think, people like that actually exist."
Dawn

What do you think? Honestly I just wanna get rid of that current quote. It just bugs me.

Edited by Necrowonomicon on Mar 17th 2023 at 9:43:55 AM

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Everyone's friend Malamar
#10652: Mar 17th 2023 at 9:46:43 AM

[up]1, it'd help if you linked things properly. 2, your proposal is too non-illustrative, especially since as a kid's franchise, outsiders might (wrongfully, I know, but still) see it as only in terms relative to kids' shows.

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Necrowonomicon Since: Mar, 2023
#10653: Mar 17th 2023 at 9:53:30 AM

Sorry about the improper linking. And yeah, that was the first one I thought of. I think this one could work, though.

"Turning tail and running? From this puny HUMAN? Pathetic! I was the one to feed you the power you needed so that you could take on Arceus! I was the one who gave you the chance to claw open that space-time rift, driving the deity of space and time mad so that you could drag the creator out from hiding!"
Volo, after Giratina's defeat

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Everyone's friend Malamar
#10654: Mar 17th 2023 at 9:56:47 AM

[up]That's at least illustrative. I'll wait to see what others say; I know that on trope pages we do prefer the quote and pic come from different works.

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Necrowonomicon Since: Mar, 2023
#10655: Mar 17th 2023 at 9:59:31 AM

Thank you. If anyone else has any good quotes, please add them. The more options, the better.

I want to try my best, okay? It's hard to format text on a phone, after all. It's not something I'm used to.

Edited by Necrowonomicon on Mar 17th 2023 at 10:02:03 AM

TheWrongOne41 The Clown is in town (*he*/she/they) from Somewhere, Mexico Since: May, 2022 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
The Clown is in town (*he*/she/they)
#10656: Mar 17th 2023 at 7:27:39 PM

Volo is a twist villain isn't he? Thought that quotes shouldn't spoil the work.

If what i say is the case, maybe replace Volo's name with "The Traitor" or something like that.

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PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
#10657: Mar 17th 2023 at 7:29:47 PM

Don’t like either of the suggestions.

Vilui Since: May, 2009
#10658: Mar 17th 2023 at 7:38:51 PM

"Arabian Nights" Days and Aladdin both had the lyrics changed from the published version to the original version, with no edit reason. It feels inappropriate to use a rejected lyric in this way.

badtothebaritone (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Snooping as usual
#10659: Mar 17th 2023 at 7:46:13 PM

[up] The original version was published. It was just replaced by the current line in later re-releases.

Edited by badtothebaritone on Mar 17th 2023 at 9:46:39 AM

Yindee Just stoic wisdom. from New England Since: Jul, 2016
Just stoic wisdom.
#10660: Mar 17th 2023 at 8:20:46 PM

[up] Do Works pages count toward the "don't double-up on quotes" policy?

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Necrowonomicon Since: Mar, 2023
#10661: Mar 18th 2023 at 9:23:05 AM

Well, if anyone has been better suggestions for Pokémon.Monster's page quote, I'd love to hear them. I just want to get that damn Kodai quote off the page if possible.

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#10662: Mar 18th 2023 at 12:02:32 PM

What's wrong with the Kodai quote?

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Necrowonomicon Since: Mar, 2023
#10663: Mar 18th 2023 at 12:17:53 PM

It's not the quote itself, but giving Kodai the page image and quote doesn't sit right with me. This is Pokemon.Monster, not the "Grigs Kodai is a piece of shit and here's why" page.

None of the other Complete Monster subpages have this problem, if I remember. Pokémon is a multi-media franchise, so focusing solely on one character from one movie is too much bias.

Edited by Necrowonomicon on Mar 18th 2023 at 12:20:15 PM

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#10664: Mar 18th 2023 at 10:09:27 PM

Can we change the quote on Stupid Sexy Flanders for variety's sake, because the current is from the Trope Namer? The subpage has several decent ones:

"You know, it's not gay if you think Rudy's hot. We all think he's hot. My God, you're beautiful."
Corporal Josh Ray Person, Generation Kill

"Don't be intimidated, Squidward. Try to imagine him in his underwear. [imagines Squilliam in his underwear with a muscular body and boxers] Oh no, he's hot!"
Squidward, SpongeBob SquarePants

"OMG! I think I love you. And I'm not even gay! I'm so confused."
Unnamed Guy, to Thaddeus Euphemism, The Petri Dish

Necrowonomicon Since: Mar, 2023
nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#10666: Mar 19th 2023 at 4:16:37 AM

The main problem with that one (which otherwise I'd also prefer) is that, perhaps unsurprisingly, it's already the quote on Imagine the Audience Naked, and is slightly more succinct than any of the quotes on that trope's quote page.

KingofNightmares Since: Aug, 2016 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#10667: Mar 19th 2023 at 4:37:22 AM

In response to this, Star Wars has both the image and quote as Palpatine and Daredevil has both the image and quote as Bullseye, so this isn't something exclusive to Pokémon

"It was the best of times, it was the BLURST of times?"
Necrowonomicon Since: Mar, 2023
#10668: Mar 19th 2023 at 6:57:01 AM

I see...well, I don't know what to do with this information. I guess, to play devil's advocate, Palpatine & Bullseye are reoccurring villains throughout both franchises, whereas Kodai is just a single character from a single movie?

Honestly, if any character should have both the page quote and image, it should be Ghetsis. I mean, even if his game equivalent doesn't count, both his manga and generations counterparts do. I'm sure we can find some good stuff for both the quote and image.

Edited by Necrowonomicon on Mar 19th 2023 at 6:59:57 AM

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#10669: Mar 19th 2023 at 8:38:04 AM

There is a custom of trying to make sure that a page image and quote do not come from the same source. However, like the rule about not having the same quote on two or more pages, I'm not sure it's written down anywhere.

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Necrowonomicon Since: Mar, 2023
#10670: Mar 19th 2023 at 8:40:26 AM

You're right. So, what do you guys think? Should we keep em' or change em'?

Personally, I vote [tup] on changing the quote. How about you guys?

Edited by Necrowonomicon on Mar 19th 2023 at 8:49:38 AM

KingofNightmares Since: Aug, 2016 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#10671: Mar 19th 2023 at 9:07:35 AM

This one probably isn't that great, but here's a suggestion from Ardos for Pokémon

Ardos: GRAND MASTER! We're done here! We should blow up Citadark Isle with the child still on it!
Greevil: But... If I did that, our SHADOW POKéMON data and our subordinates would be lost as well...
Ardos: GRAND MASTER, such things can be replaced! We must ensure our own survival! I've readied a helicopter for our escape. We've got to leave now.

Edited by KingofNightmares on Mar 19th 2023 at 9:08:42 AM

"It was the best of times, it was the BLURST of times?"
WetFlannels Classy, Refined, Unstable from Nearby, on a cosmological scale. Since: Oct, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Classy, Refined, Unstable
#10672: Mar 19th 2023 at 9:14:01 AM

I'm fine with keeping it Kodai and the Trope Namer for the Flanders quote

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Necrowonomicon Since: Mar, 2023
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Damnably Inscrutable
#10674: Mar 19th 2023 at 3:07:04 PM

I don't understand the quote for Jumping Off the Slippery Slope. Can someone explain it?

"There is a difference between you and me. We both looked into the abyss. But when it looked back at us... you blinked."

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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#10675: Mar 19th 2023 at 3:22:15 PM

[up] The context is Batman is comparing how he and Owlman differ because when both learned about the multiverse, Owlman became a Straw Nihilist and sought to destroy all of reality in an existential crisis.

I say cut it, since it's not a proper example of Jumping Off the Slippery Slope, which is when morally ambiguous characters commit evil acts that solidify them as evil. Owlman starts the movie as an evil character with no redeeming factors and ends the movie the exact same way.


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