General Page Quote Discussion:

Seconded

thirded

Fourthed.

Jazz looks like what "TV Tropes"? More like "TV Quotes"! warns against.

Yeah, that looks awful. I think either quote 4 or 5 should suffice

I like 4 personally.

(x3) I'd keep the fifth one, move it at the top of the page, and cut the others.

Question: is the quote on Author Tract illustrative enough? I know it's mocking a book series known for Author Tracts, but on its own, does it illustrate the trope enough?

I just realized that once we pick which qoute to leave on Jazz (I'm starting to lean towards quote #5), the description will have to be rewritten, otherwise it will stop making sense. Can we do this here or should it be brought to another thread?

For Author Tract, I think there are more illustrative examples on the quote page. One of those might work better:

Atlas Shrugged can be called a novel only by devaluing the term. It is a massive tract for the times. Its story merely serves Miss Rand to get the customers inside the tent, and as a soapbox for delivering her Message. The Message is the thing.

—Whittaker Chambers, "Big Sister is Watching You"

I'd go with #1. It sounds the most neutral out of the 3.

Also vote for #1 for the same reason

(x3) I think they all work, though I personally prefer the first.

Swapped it out for 1. Thanks all.

Np.

A Degree in Useless's quote has no source. It's also a bit obtuse. The subpage has plenty of better options:

I like 2. (3 is also good.)

The quote for Badass Biker is weird. It's more like Cool People Rebel Against Authority maybe.

Maybe something like this quote from Ghost Rider would be better:

for replacing A Degree in Useless (I'm leaning towards 2)

for replacing Badass Biker

Edited by Andariel on Sep 12th 2022 at 8:16:49 PM

Also, bumping Diplomatic Impunity: there were suggestions for replacement ([1], [2]) but no consensus was reached

• A Degree in Useless quote: vote to replace with Avenue Q quote (#3)
• Badass Biker quote: vote to replace with Marvel vs. Capcom 3 quote
• Diplomatic Impunity: vote to replace with Family Guy quote (longer version)

What does the "(taking this trope the wrong way)" part of the attribution on Un-Canceled mean? Is it snark or just some weird joke I can't parse?

Honestly the whole quote is a bit long-winded and might not be clear enough, I think the Splatoon 2 quote might suffice better (because the only other quotes are both Futurama and would be redundant to the page image).

The "(taking this trope the wrong way)" is supposed to highlight the irony of Peter's speech, since all the shows he listed were cancelled before Family Guy came back on the air and he acts like the odds of that happening would be extremely low.

Edited by chasemaddigan on Sep 12th 2022 at 12:17:00 PM

But besides the fact that Un-Canceled isn't even a trope, and he's discussing the item in a correct context, which is, even with the dramatic irony going on, that there's a low but nonzero chance of a show being revived. It just feels unnecessary. Being Un-Canceled is relatively uncommon and that's why it's notable.

Wouldn't mind that, though I prefer no explanatory notes whenever possible.

Edited by mightymewtron on Sep 13th 2022 at 1:03:16 PM

Perhaps we could replace the parenthetical with an explanatory note. Something like "All of these shows were cancelled between Family Guy's first cancelation and first un-cancelation."

The English Dragon has three quotes: two are of random Amazon customers lavishing praise on the book, the third is nonsensical and is attached to a broken link. Permission to cut all three?