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This thread is for general discussion of page quotes, whether to change, move or remove them.

Unused quotes should be put on a Quotes Wiki page (just replace the namespace in the URL of the wiki page you are making a quotes page for with Quotes/).

Image captions are discussed elsewhere and have their own thread in the Image Pickin' forum.

Edited by wingedcatgirl on Jun 10th 2024 at 5:50:24 AM

wingedcatgirl mys. minty from the silly dimension from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
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#9376: Jul 9th 2022 at 7:19:10 PM

Attributing made-up quotes to "X, probably" is a long-standing meme, so yes those were made up and yes remove them.

Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.
MissConduct (Septatroper)
#9377: Jul 10th 2022 at 12:43:47 PM

Where Is Your X Now? has its speaker in spoilers. That's not allowed, right?

RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
#9378: Jul 10th 2022 at 1:01:26 PM

Yeah, it isn't (at least to my knowledge). I'll fix it, though.

PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
#9379: Jul 10th 2022 at 1:08:18 PM

No spoilers in the main body of the description, above the "Examples" line. Just don't do it.

The quote shouldn’t even be there, by this policy. Hiding it in a note is mechanically no different than hiding it in a spoiler tag.

MissConduct (Septatroper)
#9380: Jul 10th 2022 at 1:31:40 PM

I guess I'll put in a vote for pull the Toy Story 3 quote and replace it with something else. It's a dialogue trope so I imagine it won't be too hard to find something.

RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
#9382: Jul 10th 2022 at 2:01:30 PM

Alright, I'll pull it then.

antenna_ears from California Since: Apr, 2020 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#9383: Jul 10th 2022 at 2:41:27 PM

To me, the current page quote for Skull for a Head could be talking about anything.

I found two quotes I thought could work from the quotes page.

At first glance, Slugtongue could be mistaken for a death-devil, for his head is little more than a leering, bovine skull...

Battle Cat: Where is his face?
Man-At-Arms: I think that skull is his face.
He-Man: Uncle Keldor?
Skeletor: Please, call me Skeletor.
He-Man: ...Why?
Skeletor: "Why"? Because— The bones. My face. I'm a living skull.
Battle Cat: Then shouldn't you be "Skull-etor"?

Personally, I’d prefer the first quote for brevity’s sake as well as not wanting to double-dip Skeletor as both the page image and page quote. But I definitely think either of these are better than current.

ChloeJessica Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
#9384: Jul 10th 2022 at 3:06:27 PM

[tup]to replacing with the Warhammer quote.

Malady (X-Troper)
#9385: Jul 10th 2022 at 3:23:42 PM

Film.Road House's is not from the work, and it's negative criticism of it. Should it be changed / removed?

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She / Her
#9386: Jul 10th 2022 at 3:47:05 PM

[up]I think it's fine, actually.


[up][up][up]I agree that needs to be changed, though I think either quote works.

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#9387: Jul 10th 2022 at 6:22:24 PM

I don't really get the quote on Robotic Assembly Lines.

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wingedcatgirl mys. minty from the silly dimension from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
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#9388: Jul 10th 2022 at 8:17:22 PM

It doesn't make sense out of context. (The context is that a robot assembly line is the answer to Homer's question.) Delete it.

Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.
ShaiPa Since: Aug, 2013
#9389: Jul 10th 2022 at 9:02:48 PM

Yeah, that requires a lot of context to understand the quote. I vote pull.


[up]x4 I like the Road House and don't see a need to change it.

Edited by ShaiPa on Jul 10th 2022 at 11:04:03 AM

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She / Her
#9390: Jul 10th 2022 at 9:08:18 PM

[up]x3 Yeah, it's bad, so I vote to cut it.

HingabeSieben Since: Jul, 2021
#9391: Jul 10th 2022 at 11:35:29 PM

The quote on Last Breath Bullet is the "from Hell's Heart" line from Moby Dick.

"To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee."
Captain Ahab, Moby-Dick

This is the same quote used for Taking You with Me, a very closely related trope. I don't know if there's any official policy on the matter, but I don't really like using the same quote for two tropes, and certainly not for two closely related tropes.

Also, I haven't read Moby Dick, so I don't know if he uses a gun during a last desperate strike before dying or even if this speech is given at a dying moment at all. The page does mention it doesn't necessarily need to be a gun, but still, it's not ideal.

I'd like to replace it with the following passage from Disco Elysium:

Narrator: You see two crazed eyes stare at you — through the burning meat and flames. With his face boiling off the man raises his pistol at you. Then he squeezes the trigger...
(Look the burning man in the eye.)
Narrator: The look of vengeance. Framed by melting skin. This is the last thing he will do on Earth — but he will do it. He will end you.

Edited by HingabeSieben on Jul 10th 2022 at 11:50:13 AM

Adept (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#9392: Jul 11th 2022 at 3:05:05 AM

[up]Actually, Last Breath Bullet don't necessarily involve gun or bullets. It's about a villain whom others assume to be dead but unexpectedly still has enough in them to launch a last-second attack to seriously injure or kill the hero or their friends when their backs are turned. Whether or not the villain actually dies afterwards is actually optional.

Hence the suggested quote don't work because it's still just Taking You with Me, and it doesn't show that the attacker was previously assumed dead, or that the last-second attack was unexpected. I'd say just pull the quote from Last Breath Bullet for being a duplicate and not actually illustrative of the trope.

Edited by Adept on Jul 11th 2022 at 5:05:51 PM

Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#9393: Jul 12th 2022 at 8:07:08 PM

The Scrappy had it's page quote changed from this:

"The more astute readers among you may have noticed that I haven't yet gone so far as to give anything an actual 'F'. That's not out of any kind-heartedness on my part, it's just that every time I got ready to give one out, I would ask myself, 'Is it really that bad, compared to the verminous, soul-tainting badness of Scrappy-Doo?'"
Lore Fitzgerald Sjoberg, The Book of Ratings

To this without edit reason:

"The key element is how this character drives some formerly rational fans to the lowest levels of foaming loonydom in their hatred."

It seems inappropriate for this wiki to quote itself. Thoughts?

mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#9394: Jul 12th 2022 at 8:18:09 PM

The wiki can quote itself, as seen on QuoteSource.Internet, but quoting the discussion that launched the trope just feels circular and unillustrative. That sort of pre-launch talk ends up in the description.


Actually, speaking of TV Tropes quotes on articles, let's look at them.

  • The Bard on Board doesn't seem very illustrative. The trope's about Shakespeare plots inspiring works, and Shakespeare using many tropes in his works isn't the same as describing the plots he invented.
  • Battle Theme Music, Surprise Difficulty, and Vitriolic Best Buds aren't too bad but could use an actual source for where the tropers said this. A forum thread maybe? Anywhere public at least?
  • Event Flag is sourced to "Cave Story's entry for this trope " which, again, feels circular — in that not a quote from the game itself? It also doesn't feel very clear without context.

Edited by mightymewtron on Jul 12th 2022 at 11:23:20 AM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
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#9395: Jul 12th 2022 at 11:28:44 PM

I don't feel very comfortable using troper quotes on trope pages, because it smells like citogenesis. I would support removing them, with suitable replacements if they're brought into suggestion (for example, for Battle Theme Music, I would suggest one of DJ Octavio's lines from his Final Boss battle in Splatoon 2: "It's time to d-d-d-drop the sea bass!").

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MyTimingIsOff Since: Dec, 2011
#9396: Jul 12th 2022 at 11:47:33 PM

Agree that we should just not use troper quotes if we can help it. It's self-aggrandizing.

Edited by MyTimingIsOff on Jul 12th 2022 at 2:47:44 PM

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#9397: Jul 13th 2022 at 4:17:35 AM

I noticed the quote on The Scrappy. I was wondering about that.

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good-morning Lord Something, Forgetter of Cool Titles from Brazil Since: Nov, 2021
Lord Something, Forgetter of Cool Titles
#9398: Jul 13th 2022 at 8:11:34 AM

I also agree with replacing redundant Tv tropes quotes when possible. It's like an author quoting themselves.


Does the quote in Posthumous Narration have spoilers for the movies mentioned? If so, I wanted to suggest the opening of The Posthumous Memoirs of Brás Cubas by Machado de Assis, as the fact that the novel is set after the protagonist's death is the main premise. It is already in the quotes page.
"To the worm who first gnawed on the cold flesh of my corpse, I dedicate with fond remembrance these Posthumous Memoirs."

Edited by good-morning on Jul 13th 2022 at 12:13:25 PM

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Everyone's friend Malamar
#9399: Jul 13th 2022 at 8:14:10 AM

The quote on Humanity Is Young lacks a source. Anyone know what it's from?

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good-morning Lord Something, Forgetter of Cool Titles from Brazil Since: Nov, 2021
Lord Something, Forgetter of Cool Titles
#9400: Jul 13th 2022 at 8:23:15 AM

[up]According to quotes.net, it is apparently from Green Lantern (2011), by a character called Kilowog.

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