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Edited by Tabs on Jul 15th 2023 at 2:40:54 AM

Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#8226: Oct 6th 2021 at 6:28:17 PM

Did the trim for Grandfather Paradox.

I could trim it further:

Twilight: Travel back along a given time line can't be possible, because it could violate causality — do you know about the Grandmother Paradox?
Rarity: No.
Twilight: Suppose you travelled back in time to a point before you, and your parents, were born, and you killed your maternal grandmother... [...] But then she would never give birth to your mother, so you would never be born — so you could never go back in time to kill her — it's a paradox — see!

Thoughts?

Edited by Twiddler on Oct 6th 2021 at 6:31:35 AM

mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#8227: Oct 6th 2021 at 7:20:13 PM

Honestly, we only really need the second Twilight line. Dropping the trope name isn't necessary as it's implied by, well, being on the trope name.

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Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#8228: Oct 6th 2021 at 7:29:39 PM

How's this?

"Travel back along a given time line can't be possible, because it could violate causality[.] [...] Suppose you travelled back in time to a point before you, and your parents, were born, and you killed your maternal grandmother... [...] But then she would never give birth to your mother, so you would never be born — so you could never go back in time to kill her — it's a paradox — see!"

easytorememberhandle Since: Jun, 2011
#8229: Oct 7th 2021 at 9:00:12 AM

Is the quote for "Pop!" Goes the Human an original poem? I googled it and this is literally the only site that came back. There's a spare quote on the quotes page. Bare-bones, but it gets the point across.

PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
#8230: Oct 7th 2021 at 9:35:18 AM

The line “eighty steaks with cumin” was originally “half a tank of Pepsi” according to the edit history, so I have every reason to believe it was original.

Edited by PurpleEyedGuma on Oct 7th 2021 at 12:35:44 PM

Adept (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#8231: Oct 7th 2021 at 9:52:28 AM

[up][up]Actually the spare quote doesn't adequately describe what is being popped (a person) and the cause of the pop (being inflated or overstuffed with food), and without context it might as well be talking about soap bubbles, gum or bottles of beer. If that was on page, I would have requested it to be cut.

easytorememberhandle Since: Jun, 2011
#8232: Oct 7th 2021 at 10:09:10 AM

Hm, you're right. It's too bare-bones. I'm racking my brains trying to come up with a replacement but I've realized I just don't consume very much media where people explode. I'll come back if I find anything.

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#8233: Oct 8th 2021 at 5:27:16 PM

The Armies Are Evil page quote got changed to something that's incredibly long, with no discussion or edit reason.

It used to be:

"Just miles from our doorstep, hundreds of men are given weapons and trained to kill. The government calls it 'the Army.' But a more alarmist name is: The Killbot Factory."
Kent Brockman, The Simpsons

It has been changed to:

This had given Atro a chance to argue the worth of warfare as the breeder of courage and manliness and the weeder-out of the unfit, but the very line of his argument had forced him to concede the effectiveness of guerrillas, organized from below, self-disciplined. “But that only works when the people think they're fighting for something of their own — you know, their homes, or some notion or other,” the old man had said. Shevek had dropped the argument. He now continued it, in the darkening basement among the stacked crates of unlabeled chemicals. He explained to Atro that he now understood why the army was organized as it was. It was indeed quite necessary. No rational form of organization would serve the purpose. He simply had not understood that the purpose was to enable men with machine guns to kill unarmed men and women easily and in great quantities when told to do so. Only he still could not see where courage, or manliness, or fitness entered in.
Shevek, The Dispossessed

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
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Officially intimidated
#8234: Oct 8th 2021 at 5:33:15 PM

Yeah, I prefer the shorter quote.

135 - 169 - 273 - 191 - 188 - 230 - 300
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Reymma RJ Savoy from Edinburgh Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
RJ Savoy
#8236: Oct 9th 2021 at 3:51:02 AM

The quote on Altar Diplomacy is illustrative, but too long. On the discussion page, two shorter suggestions are given. My preference would be the Austrian motto, because the Shrek one is more about gaining prestige than allies. Any input?

Stories don't tell us monsters exist; we knew that already. They show us that monsters can be trademarked and milked for years.
Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#8237: Oct 9th 2021 at 9:01:28 AM

Thanks for the feedback. I've amended the quote on the Armies Are Evil page.

Drink-Based Characterization has a page quote that seems to be suffering from Fan Myopia, it doesn't explain how the drinks characterise the people involved and then is made even more confusing by the bartender complaining that they're ruining the joke by not asking for milk. It's very confusing as to how it's relevant to the trope, as a result.

This is the current page quote:

Bartender: What will it be?
Meryl Stryfe: [bangs fist on counter] A banana sundae!
Milly Thompson: A gâteau mille-feuille with Ceylon tea!
Drunk Customer: Listen, missies, the gag won't work unless you order milk!
Trigun

One quote I can think of as a possible replacement is this:

The full quote:

Helena: We knew it wouldn't be easy for him; growing up without other Klingons to turn to for guidance.
Sergey: We had to let him discover and explore his heritage by himself. Let him find his own path.
Guinan: So many parents could learn so much from the two of you.
Helena: Well, I'm afraid that Worf feels that we do not understand him.
Guinan: Well, part of him may feel that way. There's another part that I've seen. Part that comes in and drinks prune juice, part that looks out the window towards home — he's not looking towards the Klingon Empire; he's looking towards you.

If that's too long, it could be shortened to this:

Guinan: So many parents could learn so much from the two of you.
Helena: Well, I'm afraid that Worf feels that we do not understand him.
Guinan: Well, part of him may feel that way. There's another part that I've seen. Part that comes in and drinks prune juice, part that looks out the window towards home — he's not looking towards the Klingon Empire; he's looking towards you.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Oct 9th 2021 at 5:01:54 PM

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#8238: Oct 9th 2021 at 9:54:07 AM

[up] Only the last line feels slightly relevant at all and even that's kind of a thinker.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#8239: Oct 9th 2021 at 8:33:19 PM

[up][up], [up]: How about this?

Nav: Barkeep! A whiskey, neat, for the lovely PI, and a Starboard Sling for the handsome bounty hunter.
[...]
MC: Oh? You remembered [my drink order], did you?
Nav: Eh. Only because it was the most stereotypical 'Hello, I am a grizzled private eye' drink ever.
I gasp, affronted.
MC: Hey! Not all of us like a bakery's worth of sugar dunked in with our booze.
I look pointedly at the cheerful neon cocktail Jessa sets in front on him.
Nav: There's nothing wrong with wanting a little sweetness from life, [MC].
MC: I prefer to stay bitter.
Starship Promise, A Cosmic Match, Nav episode 3

    shortened from: 
Nav: Barkeep! A whiskey, neat, for the lovely PI, and a Starboard Sling for the handsome bounty hunter.
Jessa: Call me 'barkeep' again and see what happens, Nav.
I muffle a laugh behind my hand, before raising a brow at Nav.
MC: How did you guess my drink order?
Nav: I remembered it from when we were undercover at that tavern during our last job.
My eyebrow lifts even higher as I smirk, leaning forward with my elbows on the table.
MC: Oh? You remembered that, did you?
Nav: Eh. Only because it was the most stereotypical 'Hello, I am a grizzled private eye' drink ever.
I gasp, affronted.
MC: Hey! Not all of us like a bakery's worth of sugar dunked in with our booze.
I look pointedly at the cheerful neon cocktail Jessa sets in front on him.
Nav: There's nothing wrong with wanting a little sweetness from life, [MC].
MC: I prefer to stay bitter.

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#8240: Oct 10th 2021 at 2:20:06 AM

That does seem better, but it also seems long.

It's better than the other options, however.

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from tall grass (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#8242: Oct 10th 2021 at 7:17:10 PM

Can we change the page quote of Gag Haircut from this:

Sister Diana: You let Sister Carmen talk you into letting her give you a haircut?
Sister Floriana: She said she had been practicing! She said she was following a book and everything! And she always had really nice hair, so I thought...
Sister Diana: Of all the people to mess with your hair, you chose Sister Carmen!
Sister Pacifica: I wouldn't trust her to shave me bald.

To this?:

Delenn: Commander. I want you to understand that I took on human characteristics in order to bring your people and mine closer together. To symbolize out mutuality. It is supposed to be a dignified, inspiring transition for both humans and Minbari, so will you please explain to me why this, this... this...
Ivanova: Uh... hair.
Delenn: ...refuses to cooperate?!

I don't want to give the previously mentioned fascist work any more airtime than it has already been given, and the quote was added without discussion.

Rawr.
mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#8243: Oct 10th 2021 at 7:49:58 PM

I'm not a fan of "replace the quote cuz I don't like the source material" (especially cuz Sister Floriana is in a weird situation, IIRC, where the guy pushing it was definitely a far-right-winger at best but the comic itself isn't as explicit) and the old one focuses more on the trope than the suggestion.

That said, the current quote isn't really that great either. Throwing my own suggestion into the ring, even if the work is overdosed on the site:

Calvin: LOOK WHAT YOU DID TO MY HAIR! IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS CUT WITH A WEED-EATER!
Hobbes: Nothing a little tonic and combing can't fix.

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Libraryseraph Showtime! from Canada (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: Raising My Lily Rank With You
Showtime!
#8244: Oct 10th 2021 at 8:08:22 PM

I like the Calvin and Hobbes quote best. Leaving aside sister floriana's other issues, it's not very concise, and the Babylon 5 one isnt clear enough

Edited by Libraryseraph on Oct 10th 2021 at 11:08:41 AM

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Orbiting Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#8245: Oct 10th 2021 at 10:57:53 PM

I agree, the Calvin and Hobbes one is the best of the three.

Edited by Orbiting on Oct 10th 2021 at 1:58:05 PM

StFan Since: Jan, 2001
#8246: Oct 11th 2021 at 1:52:45 AM

The Combat Pragmatist quote has been changed recently, and I don't see it being discussed in this thread. It's not an improvement in my book, what do you think?

Old quote:

Will Turner: You didn't beat me. You ignored the rules of engagement. In a fair fight, I'd kill you.
Jack Sparrow: That's not much incentive for me to fight fair, then, is it?

New quote:

"Sorry, I saw an opening that seemed to scream out 'attack', so... I did. Hahah!"
Goku (after slugging Recoome in the gut while he was busy charging his ultimate attack), Dragon Ball Z

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#8247: Oct 11th 2021 at 3:32:27 AM

Yeah, the new one relies too much on the parenthetical description. Revert.

SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from tall grass (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#8248: Oct 11th 2021 at 4:03:32 AM

Voting for the Calvin and Hobbes quote.

Rawr.
Orbiting Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#8249: Oct 11th 2021 at 5:14:01 PM

[up][up][up] Yeah, the old one was better. Revert.

StFan Since: Jan, 2001
#8250: Oct 12th 2021 at 4:45:22 AM

Quote reverted with a commented-out link to this thread.

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