This thread is for general discussion of page quotes, whether to change, move or remove them.
Unused quotes should be put on a Quotes Wiki page (just replace the namespace in the URL of the wiki page you are making a quotes page for with Quotes/) or, if they don't have an article, on Quotes Looking for an Article.
Image captions are discussed elsewhere and have their own thread
in the Image Pickin' forum.
Edited by Tabs on Jul 15th 2023 at 2:40:54 AM
Perhaps we could pull a quote from this description in Hogfather by Terry Pratchett?
She'd seen a picture of it in one of the children's books. Despite its name, the woodcut artist had endeavoured to make it look... sort of jolly.
It wasn't jolly. The pillars at the entrance were hundreds of feet high. Each of the steps leading up was taller than a man. They were the grey-green of old ice.
Ice. Not bone. There were faintly familiar shapes to the pillars, possibly a suggestion of femur or skull, but it was made of ice.
We could cut it down to the following, if it's too long:
Edited by Wyldchyld on Dec 21st 2018 at 12:04:32 PM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
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I think the shortened version works. ![[tup]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Thumbs_up_emoticon_3268.png "[thumb up]"){kind=small}
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
Yes, please.
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It's up.
How sweet it is
Ape Shall Never Kill Ape has two quotes and the second's an alteration of the first.
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Nuke the second and it should be fine. I don't see any obvious better options anywhere.
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
I'm not even sure that the second quote even happened; removing it.
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Does someone have an opinion about the Ultimate X-Men case I mentioned a month ago?
Ultimate Secret Wars
Trogdor7620
In regards to the page quote for It Makes Sense in Context, the current one doesn't really explain the trope all that well.
To me, the quote is an example of the trope, not an explanation about it. I'd suggest a quote that has the characters directly referencing that what they are saying has meaning in context.
A few examples from the trope's quotes page:
Anastasia Luccio: Madre di Dio, Harry. I cannot for the life of me imagine what it does appear to be.
Danny: Barry! Take that out of context!
If anyone has any suggestions, or thinks that one of these is appropriate, let us know.
Edited by Trogdor7620 on Dec 26th 2018 at 1:42:05 AM
There are only two things in my life that I depend on: video games and TV Tropes.
I prefer the Dresden one. Least amount of extraneous detail, makes sense out of context without losing the meaning, and reasonably funny.
I agree the Dresden quote is the best.
I wanted to add this page quote to Celeste:
I was wondering if it would work better with the first line at the top of the page, and the second line as The Stinger at the bottom. I've seen lots of pages with a split-quote setup like that before, and I think this quote could work like that.
I don't really have any specific reason for wanting it like this, the quote is delivered normally (see for yourself here), I just think it would look good.
If it should be put in normally, with both lines at the top, that's fine too.
Another thing is that the first speaker is officially named "Badeline", but in-game is only ever referred to as "A Part of [You / Her / Me]", probably because the player character, Madeline, can be renamed. So what should she be labelled as in the quote? Madeline's definitely going to be labelled as "Madeline".
I strongly disagree with adding any part of it as a stinger. And it should probably be labeled Badeline, just to be less confusing.
Alright, I put it up as a normal quote.
Is it alright that I potholed "Badeline" to Enemy Without? I think that would help cut down on any confusion that anyone not familiar with the work might have with two characters having such similar names.
Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch
The full quotation, presently, is "Because guess what? You might not know everything about a genre you refuse to listen to."
I think the "because guess what" is unnecessary, and only serves to draw attention to the missing context. I think it'd be better to omit those first three words and have the new quotation be as follows:
"You might not know everything about a genre you refuse to listen to."
- Agreed.
Hypno Ray's quote is:
Does that count, or does Hypno Ray, have to be a long-distance ray / beam of some kind, and that quote would fall under the more general, Mind-Control Device?
Edited by Malady on Jan 6th 2019 at 1:37:36 AM
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Shin Megami Tensei IV
I've wondered about the Commie Nazis quotes. Most of them are debunking the idea rather than showing it, to made it worse, the troper that puts them had a historial of downplaying the crimes of Stalinists regimes and got banned for it among other reasons.
For example, the very first one is a quote of Thomas Mann saying that anyone that equates both is a closet Fascist. Which, regardless of ideological views, isn't even close to define the Commie Nazis trope.
I agree by leaving those lines. Thought is fine having Neo Nazi quotes here? Rand' quote might be OK. But dunno. Is obviously ideologically based, but it define the spirit of the trope.
There’s the system and the enemies of the system.
Edited by KazuyaProta on Jan 6th 2019 at 9:38:10 AM
Watch me destroying my country
Definitely remove any Neo-Nazi quotes. As for the others, if they have nothing to do with the topic, then remove them, especially if they were originally added by someone who has since been banned.
Awful Hospital and Strange School both have two page quotes.
Their first quotes are both Walls of Text:
It is a hospital.
And you are a very sick individual."
Awful Hospital's second quote is the comic's tagline, while Strange School's second quote is a line from Awful Hospital! Apparently Strange School is a Fan Work of Awful Hospital, and this particular quote is what inspired the creation of Strange School.
For Awful Hospital, normally I'd say just cut the first quote and use the tagline, but I think if we trimmed the first one down, it could work:
It is a hospital.
And you are a very sick individual."
For Strange School, I don't think the first quote works at all, while the second quote in and of itself is fine, it's not actually from that webcomic, so I don't know if it's appropriate for the page quote.
Edited by Primis on Jan 9th 2019 at 7:03:11 AM
Super Prototype has a complainy critic quote. Suggested alternative:
I'm good with that.
How sweet it is
Miles better.
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
Objection; "Make the units better with new technology." This line says that the production models are better than the prototype model, which wouldn't be an example of Super Prototype.
Edit — found this under the Gurren Lagann examples:
- Gimi: Anyway, aren't Grappals supposed to be superior to Gurren Lagann? There's something wrong with a prototype being stronger.
Edited by crazysamaritan on Jan 9th 2019 at 11:35:02 AM
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Reposting from about 5 posts up, to parallel my post on "Trope Relationships" discussion:
Hypno Ray's quote is:
Does that count, or does Hypno Ray, have to be a long-distance ray / beam of some kind, and that quote would fall under the more general, Mind-Control Device?
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Any more opinions on Super Prototype? My problem with the Gurren Lagann quote is that, like the critic quote, it's a complaint (though a more minor, in-universe one) instead of an explanation. But I'm worried that the Halo one doesn't work if you don't already know how a Super Prototype can be justified.
The page quote for The Chain of Harm is exactly the same as Troubled Abuser.
Ice Palace's image and page quote are from the same work (Frozen), but regardless of that, the quote is pretty weak and probably should be replaced anyway. Any ideas?