This thread is for general discussion of page quotes, whether to change, move or remove them.
Unused quotes should be put on a Quotes Wiki page (just replace the namespace in the URL of the wiki page you are making a quotes page for with Quotes/).
Image captions are discussed elsewhere and have their own thread
in the Image Pickin' forum.
Edited by wingedcatgirl on Jun 10th 2024 at 5:50:24 AM
Hold the Line had its quote changed recently. I'm not a fan of either one, as I think they're both too long.
Old quote:
New quote:
New quote also has the "anonymous" issue, some minor grammar, and probably more swearing than necessary. Other options:
The current quote for Narrator All Along is the main twist for Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors, and should probably be replaced for that reason.
The best I could do to fix it up was to credit the line to "The Narrator", but no matter how it's formatted, the quote reveals that the narrator is not Junpei. (And for what it's worth, the 999 page lists it as a Wham Line, as evidence of its spoilery nature.)
2025: the year it all ends?![]()
Yeah, those two are way too long. Out of your suggestions, I like the Star Trek one the most, but we might be able to make the original Mass Effect quote work if we just trim it to the last few lines.
It would be nice if the quote for Hold the Line doesn't use those exact words, but the best suggestions do.
Narrator All Along seems to be a trope frequently associated with The Reveal. Is there a work where It Was His Sled that could be used instead?
Rhymes on a Dime and Rhyming List are using the same quote (just displayed differently). I think the quote is Not An Example of Rhyming List anyway, and would like to suggest the "Catalog of Ships" from The Trojan Cycle when I have time to find a copy online. Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
I swapped out the quote on Hold the Line for the shortened Kirrahe quote.
Would anyone object to me changing the quote on Rhyming with Itself to this?
The current one's a little unwieldy.
For reference, Rhyming with Itself has this quote:
I don't think there is anything unweildy about this quote, and the Simpsons suggestion is worse because of the [...] gap.
Edited by crazysamaritan on Sep 3rd 2018 at 7:44:32 AM
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
I only added the gap for accuracy, it's not essential for it to stay in.
What I meant by unwieldy was that it overuses line breaks, making it seem longer than it really is.
Poems in general tend to "overuse line breaks", see Midword Rhyme for some extreme examples. In fact, to match with poetic lines, I would've said to format The Simpsons quote this way:
Pretend this is baseball and hit us a homer!"
[...]
Homer: "By the way, rhyming "Homer" with "homer"? *Kisses his fingers* "Mwah!"
Unless Homer's line was in response to theirs, that gap is required to accurately convey the quote. My problem with the change relates to the fact that Rhyming with Itself has nothing to do with time lapse. It should be included on the quotes subpage, but I think we have a better one already on the main page. It would be interesting if other people shared their thoughts as well.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
The problem with that is that it's also formatted like a normal conversation, which is why I think it's unwieldy: it's got two conflicting styles. If it were formatted like this:
That'd be better.
Here's the scene
from The Simpsons with the full quote. You can decide for yourself if the gap is necessary.
The page quote for "The Reason You Suck" Speech is also on its Quotes page. The site rules say that's not tenable. Why don't I do something about that myself? Because clearly it's considered a real winner so I don't feel like advocating a replacement for it and more to the point, I've had my fill of that quote for one lifetime and don't want to interact with it again.
Where in the world did you read that rule? Of course page quotes should be on the quote page. It's a list of any good quotes relating to the trope/work, so if the page quote is any good, it will be there too. Plus there's a backup if someone replaces it.
Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.
Don't know for certain where I first heard it, but I saw Ferot_Dreadnaught delete a page quote from Pragmatic Villainy (see here
for details) on that basis, which is probably one of them. Also, I brought this up for Not So Different having its page quote on the Quotes page, nobody said it could be on both.
Edited by MinisterOfSinister on Sep 4th 2018 at 1:43:14 PM
I recently gave NightmareFuel.Street Fighter a page quote.
Vulcan422 changed it to this one without an edit reason.
No World Warriors or New Challengers remained in M. Bison's way.
M. Bison: Ha ha ha ha! Is there no one left?
With no one left to stand up to M. Bison's Psycho Power, the world is doomed to fall under the shroud of Shadaloo's evil.
M. Bison: The entire planet will kneel before me! Ha ha ha ha!
This world is MINE!
Which one do you guys prefer? I kinda feel like the first one is simultaneously more direct, kinda poetic, and Nothing Is Scarier, though the second one is good too for the details added.
Edited by lalalei2001 on Sep 8th 2018 at 11:32:14 AM
The Protomen enhanced my life.First the Boeotians, led by Peneleos, Leitus, Arcesilaus, Prothoenor and Clonius;
they came from Hyrie and stony Aulis,
from Schoenus, Scolus and high-ridged Eteonus;
from Thespeia and Graea, and spacious Mycalessus;
from the villages of Harma, Eilesium and Erythrae;
from Eleon, Hyle, Peteon, Ocalea and Medeon's stronghold;
from Copae, Eutresis, and dove-haunted Thisbe;
from Coroneia and grassy Haliartus, Plataea and Glisas, and the great citadel of Thebes;
from sacred Onchestus, Poseidon's bright grove;
from vine-rich Arne, Mideia, holy Nisa and coastal Anthedon.
They captained fifty ships, each with a hundred and twenty young men.
Edited by crazysamaritan on Sep 9th 2018 at 6:17:29 AM
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.@Minister Of Sinister, the last time you came here you were proposing removing a quote from the work's main page simply because it was duplicated on the Quote page.
I really don't know what you think the Quote page is for, but it's just an archive. It's a list of quotes that have in the past not been considered good enough, for whatever reason, to be the page quote. Whether the page quote also appears there or not is largely inconsequential, but it being there certainly isn't a reason for it to not be the page quote. If you must delete one of them, obviously you'd delete the one on the quote page, but there's nothing wrong with having a duplicate.
Priority 1: Make sure the best possible candidate is the main page quote.
Priority 2: Put any remaining good-but-not-good-enough suggestions on the Quotes page.
- Vote for the shorter quote for Street Fighter, other one is way too long
- Vote for the Simpsons quote for Rhymes With Itself
- I agree that the current one for Rhyming List isn't an example — in fact we may as well remove it for the time being — but I don't really like the Trojan War one either; for something as long as it is, you kind of have to squint to see a rhyme scheme.
Best option might be the most obvious:
I do not like them with a fox
I will not eat them in a house
I do not like them with a mouse
I do not like them here or there
I do not like them ANYWHERE!
Edited by johnnye on Sep 9th 2018 at 9:34:23 AM
Well, in that specific instance, the counterpart on the quotes page was identical but for a pothole, and I thought it would be better off there than on the main page. Someone pointed out the quote I wanted to replace it with was already on the quotes page, so I just deleted it on the quotes page rather than get into a fight over which was better. That sounded like an unpleasant slog with dubious chances of success.
But hey, if that's the case, someone should tell Ferot_Dreadnaught, no?
I have a concern regarding the Dethroning Moment page for Regular Show. It explicitly quotes from a Walking Spoiler, but I've spoiled the name out to prevent spoilers.
Should it be removed or do I spoil the name out?
Eh, good enough.Is the line sufficiently impactful in context that you could remove the attribution and anyone who has seen the show would still know who said it? If so, I'd do it like that.
Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.

Someone mentioned that Beware the Nice Ones shares a quote with Beware the Quiet Ones. I think they could both be changed tbh, but it's got more to do with quietness so let's work on "nice":
I prefer the former myself.
Edited by johnnye on Aug 27th 2018 at 4:00:36 PM