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Bluespade from Fort Worth, Texas Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
#351: Mar 20th 2013 at 6:07:54 PM

[up][up] Nope, Fade is always unremarkable looking. Average height, average build, nothing special to look at.

A question that came to me last night: Isana was angsting in the first book about her appearance, so why has she never bothered to just shapeshift herself? As far as I recall she never shapeshifts in the entire series (other than making her fingers into claws), but at the same time she's probably the single most powerful Watercrafter in Alera. Did she never learn how to change her appearance?

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#352: Mar 20th 2013 at 6:09:58 PM

[up] Probably not. Shapeshifting seems like a skill you need to have a good teacher at. Maybe if Septimus would have lived and taken her to Alera Imperia she'd learned it.

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#353: Mar 20th 2013 at 9:15:46 PM

Also, it's one thing to assume a disguise, but would she really want to wear a "mask" her whole life? It doesn't seem like her kind of thing, at least as far as I am.

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#354: Mar 20th 2013 at 9:21:18 PM

It's not a disguise if you never change back. A lot of people, most people I think, would choose to look different than they do if they had the choice.

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#355: Mar 21st 2013 at 2:36:20 PM

[up] I disagree. Besides it being implied to require a conscious effort (see: Fidelias/Marcus), shapeshifting yourself to be better looking seems to me to be a bit more extreme than, say, make-up.

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#356: Mar 21st 2013 at 2:38:35 PM

I'm rereading Princeps Fury and am almost through. I forgot how awesome Gram is.

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#357: Mar 21st 2013 at 4:52:19 PM

I'm getting close to finishing the first book. It's been interesting.

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#358: Mar 21st 2013 at 5:54:52 PM

It gets betta.

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MasterGhandalf Since: Jul, 2009
#359: Mar 21st 2013 at 8:48:30 PM

[up]Agreed. I've said this before, but Calderon is definitely the weak point of the series, and feels somewhat weird next to the later books, though it's hard to put my finger on what, exactly. Part of it's probably that bound furies feel a lot more independent- in later books they come off as more extensions of their masters, but in Calderon Brutus, for example, is clearly capable of exerting himself independently of Bernard and there are other small examples of things like that. Academ's Fury is a noticeable improvement in particular, the introduction of the Canim, the Vord (properly) and Kalarus makes the Myth Arc a lot more complicated than the straightforward "Gaius vs. Acquitaine" we get in book one, and then Cursor's Fury is another step up, with that level of general quality maintained for the rest of the run.

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#360: Mar 21st 2013 at 8:51:40 PM

-resists spoilers, despite the fact I've been spoiled on most everything-

Finished it. I wish had the second book. Might have to make a trip to the bookstore tomorrow.

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#361: Mar 22nd 2013 at 9:51:59 AM

Yeah, I finished Princeps a while ago. Been too occupied with the contents of the Black Library to read it anymore, though.

edited 22nd Mar '13 9:52:18 AM by theLibrarian

unlikelyauthor from the forge Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#362: Mar 27th 2013 at 7:33:15 AM

Was reading the fridge horror page for this series and I noticed someone had mentioned Canim earthcrafters and this gave me this idea- Taurga clan Marat.

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#363: Mar 27th 2013 at 7:36:58 AM

"By the Decree of Tavarus Magnus, First Lord of Alera: All Marat who have not yet bonded have to keep a one mile radius from any Taurga, for the general safety and sanity of all of Carna."

"You know, Calderon, we could always shove all those Marat who ignore that to Carnea."

"Shut up, Max. Even the Vord do not deserve that."

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#364: Mar 27th 2013 at 10:21:00 AM

And then there's the tavar clan Marat...

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#365: Mar 27th 2013 at 10:22:46 AM

[up] That assumes a Marat survives getting close to a tavar. Remember that those little Killer Rabbits kill CANIM

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#366: Mar 27th 2013 at 10:29:09 AM

So any Marat who pulls it off was already a stone cold badass before getting tavar'd.

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#367: Mar 27th 2013 at 12:23:41 PM

"Getting tavar'd" is officially my new term for all the villains who got fucked up by Tavi. Also, I see your Clan Taurga and raise you Clan Leviathan.

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#368: Mar 27th 2013 at 4:05:07 PM

[up](opens mouth for witty come back)

(pauses)

(closes mouth)

(starts slow clap)

You win.

Is it just me or did anyone else think that the description of the tavar sounded a little like a wolverine?

edited 27th Mar '13 4:16:38 PM by unlikelyauthor

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#369: Mar 27th 2013 at 4:14:49 PM

Thank you. And yes, they're supposed to be, apparently.

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unlikelyauthor from the forge Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#370: Mar 27th 2013 at 5:03:10 PM

Really? I thought that they were supposed to be descended from prehistoric animals like the grass lions. Also I'm kind of sad that we probably wont get to see a Marat tavar tribe anytime soon. If those bastards are as dangerous as they said there's no way the Canim would have been able to bring any over on the ice ships. On the plus side, they're probably giving the last vord queen no end of frustration.

Unless- a few hundred years down the line, when the alliance comes back to Canea to fight the vord, instead of warrior forms, they end up facing tavar forms?

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Maka4 Since: Apr, 2011
#371: Mar 27th 2013 at 5:17:58 PM

Or tavar-form support troops whose job it is to worm their way into the middle of the formation and fuck your shit up something fierce.

Imagine holding a shieldwall against those things...

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#372: Mar 27th 2013 at 5:20:39 PM

Given that Butcher said the next books will have furycraft steampunk...I'd say even Tavar's would start to have problems with the awesomeness of that.

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#373: Mar 27th 2013 at 6:00:06 PM

Heard of the idea for a detective steampunk story with a Marat and his Canim chala?

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#374: Mar 27th 2013 at 6:05:30 PM

yeah. I still want that.

Granted, I also want Short storys with Lord Gram and the Placidas.

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#375: Mar 27th 2013 at 6:09:32 PM

How about Lord Phrygius?

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