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Bluespade from Fort Worth, Texas Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
#326: Mar 13th 2013 at 3:37:56 AM

Personally I think Cursor's Fury is the best book of the series, so yeah, maybe it's not really your thing.

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Maka4 Since: Apr, 2011
#327: Mar 13th 2013 at 7:11:18 AM

Yeah, Cursor's Fury was indeed the best. Tavi the furyless freak blunts an invasion of close to a hundred thousand stronger and faster wolfmen, with only an understrength legion with a crippled command structure and his own human ingenuity as weapons? Bad. Ass.

The Vord really are a personality free Horde of Alien Locusts. It's not until Princep's Fury, I believe, that the Vord Queen starts being fleshed out as a character. The various warrior forms are just nonsapient animals being controlled by a hive mind, after all.

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#328: Mar 13th 2013 at 2:01:44 PM

As you might have gathered by the ending, in Captain's Tavi starts to get to the more personal kind of badass, though the scenes with Amara and co in the swamp are a total drag. I don't think Cursor's is the best, but it is a great book and very much conveys the overall essence of the series.

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Bluespade from Fort Worth, Texas Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
#329: Mar 13th 2013 at 2:03:35 PM

Captain's Fury is almost as good, especially since VARG returns, but it suffers from Amara's B Plot being really dull (until the end of course).

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#330: Mar 13th 2013 at 2:41:21 PM

Amara's scene of dodging the air asassins in eiwas just awesome particularly how she just wings it and blows them all to the ground. Can't remember if that was the third or fourth book, but hopefully you guys will get what I mean.

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#331: Mar 13th 2013 at 2:43:04 PM

Third. Fourth was the one of endless tedium culminating in pure awesome. That had nothing to do with her.

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unlikelyauthor from the forge Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#332: Mar 13th 2013 at 4:36:39 PM

Carciofus- Huh, I never really met anyone who has read more than one of these books who didn't love them. Thanks for reminding me that there are all kinds.

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Ishntknew Since: Apr, 2009
#333: Mar 13th 2013 at 6:13:24 PM

I've met plenty of people who gave up on the series after the first two or three books. I personally enjoyed them, but it's definitely not for everyone.

Carciofus Is that cake frosting? from Alpha Tucanae I Since: May, 2010
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#334: Mar 14th 2013 at 4:27:08 AM

Oh, it's not like I disliked them. Jim Butcher definitely knows how to tell a story, and the setting is definitely more original and interesting than the typical Vaguely Medievalish European World (+ Elves, Orcs and Dwarves).

It's just that as far as I can see, this series lacks the humour and the pop-culture references of the Dresden Files, and it is mostly about military fiction — which is just fine, if one likes the genre, but is not entirely my cup of tea.

edited 14th Mar '13 6:20:49 AM by Carciofus

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.
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#335: Mar 14th 2013 at 6:18:08 AM

[up] Well, he theorized about a steampunk(?) sequel, featuring a Marat detective with a Canim chala.

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#336: Mar 14th 2013 at 6:20:09 AM

That sounds like something that could be quite awesome indeed.

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.
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#337: Mar 14th 2013 at 5:39:24 PM

I'm re-reading Captains Fury at the moment and a thought came to me regarding Navaris father.

Could she, maybe, be Aldricks child? That sometime before or during Aldrick came into Septimus service he impregnated a woman and then left?

I'm extrapolating it upon her aim to defeat Araris and prove to be the best Swordfighter there is, in a "see Daddy? I did what you could not!" fashion.

Just a thought.

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syvaris Since: Dec, 2009
#338: Mar 15th 2013 at 4:13:51 AM

[up] It would depend on her age I think. I always got the impression she was mid twenties/late thirties, which would probably out the possibility of her being Aldrick's daughter. Though I am not entirely sure.

Also, it's discussions like this that remind me, even though I would like to be an author, fans are just to crazy/analyze things way to much.

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#339: Mar 15th 2013 at 4:30:19 AM

[up] Tavi is early twenties (somewhere) during Captains Fury, if Navaris is, lets say, late twenties it would simply mean that Aldrick got his byblow before he joined up to Septimus service.

And I'm just spinning around a bit because I'm waiting for the rest of the DF Rp to wake up.

edited 15th Mar '13 4:43:07 AM by 3of4

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syvaris Since: Dec, 2009
#340: Mar 17th 2013 at 11:20:48 AM

[up] That can work I suppose, Aldrick does seem the type to screw and run.

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denisewinters Since: Dec, 2011
#341: Mar 17th 2013 at 7:55:12 PM

For some reason I thought Navaris was much older, as in mid-late 30's/early 40's older. I guess maybe I thought this because she had pretty much cemented a reputation as one of the top five swordsmen living, and also, for some reason I thought she was described as having silver or gray in her hair.

I can see how someone could not get into the books. I almost called it quites on the first one and didn't really get into it until almost 200 pages in.

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#342: Mar 17th 2013 at 8:20:39 PM

I also assumed Navaris was older because someone said something about her official body count being in the triple digits and someone speculating her unofficial count could be pushing quadruple digits. I just assumed that a reputation like that would require at least thirty plus years to make.

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Bluespade from Fort Worth, Texas Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
#343: Mar 19th 2013 at 8:12:31 PM

Check out some nice sculptures of The Vord.

The Vord Queen rather diverges from canon, but still, they're pretty cool.

And here is some really badass fanart.

Awesome Canim warrior.

edited 19th Mar '13 8:15:10 PM by Bluespade

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#344: Mar 19th 2013 at 11:10:23 PM

[up] I don't know, I always got the idea of the Canim having heads closer to a jackal rather than a wolf.

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#345: Mar 20th 2013 at 5:13:34 AM

Just finished Academ's Fury. And one of the flurry of revelations in the last couple of chapters really disappointed me.

I liked what little we saw of Gaelle! Too bad she's been dead the whole time. You have one woman who isn't stunningly attractive, so of course she's the face-stealing double-agent...

Really, one thing that bugs me about the series so far is the way appearances and characters line up, except for Fade. Among the men, at least, the ugly ones are petty and vicious and don't seem to get when it's not about them. Among the women, well... they're pretty much all supposed to be hot except for Gaelle the face-stealing double-agent.

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#346: Mar 20th 2013 at 5:38:54 AM

Maybe I'm a bit corrupted by other media but I always envisioned Canim to look like more massively built Worgen.

(and yes, If my character List wasn't full I'd probably make a Canim inspired Worgen Warrior. For the heck of it.))

edited 20th Mar '13 5:39:11 AM by 3of4

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Bluespade from Fort Worth, Texas Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
#347: Mar 20th 2013 at 7:31:24 AM

[up][up] Neither Amara nor Isana are especially attractive in a classical manner. Isana had a whole angstfest about it in the first book. Fade and Miles are both rather plain looking and are good men. Kalarus Minoris is very good looking, and is a murderous douche. The Aquitines are both beautiful, and are both bad people. Bernard isn't especially attractive either, Amara's descriptions of him are just flavored by her love for him. He's going gray rather early, not many people find that attractive. Fidelias is not so great looking, and he's sort of...neutral.

Honestly I don't see any validity in your complaint, there are good and bad people of all different levels of attractiveness throughout the series.

As for Rook, well, keep reading.

edited 20th Mar '13 7:31:58 AM by Bluespade

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#348: Mar 20th 2013 at 12:57:00 PM

I also forgot about Doroga, who is bluntly described as ugly now and again.

I think what got me most was the Kordholt folks in the first book. Aric kind of reminded me of this.

I wasn't saying that beautiful people were never evil in this, just that there were times that I felt like the descriptions were telegraphing to me a bit much.

Maka4 Since: Apr, 2011
#349: Mar 20th 2013 at 2:18:47 PM

Haven't read the series in a while, but I feel like I remember even Kitai (read: the protagonist's love interest) being described more in terms of her musculature and athleticism (and grace, to be fair) rather than a quality that would be considered more classically attractive. (Plus the description of her is probably clouded by Tavi's love for her as well.)

Hell, the characters who are described explicitly as stunners are pretty much all nobility, who would have the watercrafting to back it up. And of the ones who aren't minor characters (like that girl who was betrothed to Kalarus Brencis Minoris, who was a bit of an idiot) we have bad people (High Lady Antillus, High Lady Aquitaine, Lady Gaius Caria) and good people (High Lady Placida and Lady Cereus).

Granted, there are no explicable ugly female characters. But it's a spot better than, say, The Dresden Files, where the women are like supermodel, supermodel, supermodel, and then Murphy, who's only normal-person attractive.

As for Gaelle/Rook, just keep on reading. And as for Fade, doesn't he clean up pretty damn nicely?

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#350: Mar 20th 2013 at 2:55:15 PM

I was finally able to get a hold of the first book! Plan to start reading it later tonight.

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