A) I come from a country that has trained teachers in the use of polearms to stop knife attacks, and it actualy gets results with 3 being stoped the following year after implementation off the top of my head..... So I can see why the Amercians would get the logic here, but I don't think they thought the whole thing trough.
B) Most of what the school resource officers do any way is stuff like break up fistfights and check for drugs, arrests are exceedingly rare, in fact the only one I have ever heard of was a teacher being arrested for selling drugs to the students... they function more like a bouncer then any thing because Amercian highschools have fistfights break out quite often and they need to be broken up before some one needs medical attention.
That being one of them yes, the other being the diffrence in implementation.
Numbers mater and the teachers have to be trained and retrained every year, not just one officer and calling it a day.
Not only is such training expensive but once you start getting to firearms over polearms you also start running into reasonable moral objections.
So basicly it's not an idea that carries over the best.
Most of the novel cartridges I'm familiar with were designed for specific tasks. .300 AAC Blackout for suppressed CQB, 6.8 Remington SPC for unsuppressed CQB, 6.5 Creedmoor for long-range shooting, etc. The USA is going to test the .277 Fury/6.8x51mm SIG Fury next year, but it's not quite proven yet. 5.56 has massive stockpiles and is proven to work, so it's better to stick with they know for now. Maybe they'll adopt a 6mm cartridge later.
True. It's not like you can get .277 Fury into an AR with just a barrel and bolt change like other 6mm wildcat cartridges. They might do what Heckler & Koch did with the HK416 and HK417 and make a larger version for a future cartridge. That said, it would add more expense to the project that I'm not sure deficit hawks would appreciate. Since I am unfamiliar with Finnish or Swedish military doctrine and procurement, I can't say anything for sure.
Edited by Negacube on May 26th 2023 at 10:33:15 AM
Came across this entry on our Therapy Is for the Weak page:
A problem among Americans in general. Americans have the legal right to possess firearms — unless diagnosed with certain mental illnesses (depending on the state). This is the reason Republicans support bills sometimes accused of "giving guns to the mentally ill" — it's for the purpose of averting this trope, so that gun owners can address mental health issues they may have without having their firearms stripped from them.
Is this accurate? Or is it missing important context?
That's what the Republicans say they are afraid of. I can't speak to the reality, and it probably varies by state.
I will say that "no firearms for the mentally ill" is too broad, discriminatory against the mentally ill, and wouldn't affect more than a tiny fraction of violent crimes, the vast majority of which are committed by people who seem perfectly average.
There is a need to be more specific: People with a history of escalating violence? Check. Maybe even substance abuse problems (though if you include alcohol, you are going to impact a very large number of firearms owners). And people otherwise unable to care for themselves or form independent judgement.
But "Mentally Ill" discriminates against too many people.
Edited by DeMarquis on May 28th 2023 at 4:36:37 AM
I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.That entry feels pretty shoehorned in. The reasoning for the ban is closer to Insane Equals Violent if anything, but that entry is also just otherwise questionable in my opinion.
RE: Finland and Sweden picking new ammo; we used to not be in NATO, now we are.
The problem is that even if it reverses its going to take years and years to recover.
Arms industries don't just appear overnight....
Getting some extra factories for the ukraine war's amunition consumption for instance is suposedly going to take until 2026, and you know the arms industry is rushing that one... you cant sell ammunition that doesn't exist.
Edited by Imca on May 30th 2023 at 10:24:01 AM

Alright, I'll concede that the metal detector thing was based on perception, didn't know the exact numbers.
But the school resource officer thing is some real dystopian shit, because the number of mass shootings stopped by them is a around zero (yes you could argue their presence may have passively discouraged some), but they have contributed heavily to the criminalization of young people. Even if your juvenile criminal record is expunged as an adult, being arrested during a school is highly disruptive to academic development and detrimental to future employment, leaving many with little other choice than getting involved in illegal business.
Edited by JethroQWalrustitty on May 9th 2023 at 8:40:27 PM