The Gun Thread

The state of firearms “journalism” online is really atrocious. Hasn’t the whole “heavy triggers are a safety measure” thing been debunked for like 40 years now?

They should have sent a poet.

Firearms writers are, surprisingly, overwhelmingly reactionary-right-wing. Any new information, especially information that contradicts previously held beliefs, is to be treated with intense suspicion if not outright disdain.

Let's see what fresh fuckwittery the dolts can contrive to torment themselves with this time.

And not just about firearms.

Texas introduced a bill, HB 2705 into the house.

This will if passed derestrict SBR'S statewide, treating them as no different than a regular firearm.

Cornelius, but do not waste in useless pity the few moments left in which to escape from the hands of the enemy.

Mixed feelings on that one tbh.

It's a pretty stupid and pointless regulation but at this point in 2023 I think it's a mistake to give Republicans or the NRA even the smallest inch when it comes to gun regulation because they'll do something stupid like removing CC permits and background checks if given any opportunity.

Oh really when?

Gun licensing would take care of a lot of these problems.

Ok, who knows what kind of rifle this soldier is carrying?

No beacuse nyt doesent allow people without an account to look at articles.

(im not giving yet another website info to sell to marketers when i dont even use their service.)

Cornelius, but do not waste in useless pity the few moments left in which to escape from the hands of the enemy.

That little bullpup looks like the IPI Malyuk, a bullpup AK, and used by the special forces.

A lot of funny bullpup A Ks showed up in Ukrainian hands early in the war.

Lot of them have disappeared. I've heard very mixed reviews on them.

Oh really when?

Nebraska now has CC without permit. This won't end well.

Who watches the watchmen?

"That little bullpup looks like the IPI Malyuk, a bullpup AK, and used by the special forces."

Thanks!

my state has had permit less carry for a while now, still the only place I see a gun is people walking out of the local range, things are pretty fine here.

Cornelius, but do not waste in useless pity the few moments left in which to escape from the hands of the enemy.

I live in Omaha, NE . Too many idiots with guns.

Who watches the watchmen?

I live in Ohio and we got permitless carry last year. I've seen two people open carrying since outside of range trips. It's still a terrible idea.

New Print Shoot Repeat video showing off a 3D-printed AR. Looks pretty slick. Do you think 3D-printed firearms will ever take the place of store-bought or stolen weapons for criminals, or will they remain hobby projects?

Edited by Negacube on May 7th 2023 at 4:16:46 AM

3D printed guns seem to have taken a foothold in the Myanmar civil war, to the point that they've made an improved version of the FGC-9 based on field experience. I do think it is reasonable to expect them to start popping up more and more, especially in areas with strong gun control. There was a raid a year or so back in Finland, where someone was mass-producing FGC-9's, presumably for the black market.

criminals have been making "zip guns" for as long as cariminals were banned from owning firearms.

Im just hoping that the chepening of 3d printers causes more people to own firearms, and that firearms are more normalized.

Cornelius, but do not waste in useless pity the few moments left in which to escape from the hands of the enemy.

For now, buying a really good 3D printer costs as much as buying a really good gun. Then you have to pay for materials.

Uh, and I want not that? I don't want every hothead with a chip on their shoulder to have access to automatic weapons.

Yeah, I do not have anything against gun ownership when it is properly regulated, but I do not see anything good about "more people have guns" or "guns are more normalized" as the poster seems to suggest.

I want Guns being more normalized and available, because rather than demonizing them outright and trying to ban them I want non-gun owning people and politicians to actually learn how guns work and give even the most basic of effort to learn firearm safety.

I literally heard people online say to shoot people in the legs to non-lethally subdue them. (Aka something that would guarantee bleed out)

The "Right of the people to keep and bear arms", was put into law because a disarmed nation is one of subjects not citizens. We have the 2a so we can train to join "A well-regulated Milita" (the military, this is why we have a draft) when the time becomes necessary to defend our nation or its allies from hostile foreign powers (like the time that is fast approaching)

the 2a is has integral to our country as the right to vote, so having a population so ignorant to how to even safely operate a firearm that most don't know "keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire" is embarrassing.

Cornelius, but do not waste in useless pity the few moments left in which to escape from the hands of the enemy.

So why is everyone so adverse to the Well Regulated Militia actually being Well Regulated?

And where was the Militia when the time came to defend the country from Enemies Domestic on January 6th?

Edited by Deadbeatloser22 on May 9th 2023 at 12:09:29 PM

"Yup. That tasted purple."

That is reasonable I suppose. I'm going to note that I'not an American. Now you may use that as opportunity that "I do not understand it" (thought I hope you do not), but I'm going to say it anyway. The idea that gun ownership is somehow integral to citizenship is frankly ridiculous. Citizenship is about participating and caring about national affairs, especially politics guns have nothing to do with that. Again, I have nothing against people having guns, but this seems over the top. I also feel that "disarmed nation is nation subjects, not citizens" is kind of insulting. Are you saying that Americans that do not have guns are somehow less citizens than those who do ? What about nations where gun ownership is less prevalent ?

Edited by Risa123 on May 9th 2023 at 1:15:52 PM

1. "politicians don't understand guns" is a misdirect. Nothing to do with what the problem is and this is just a standard derailing tactic to change the subject.

2. No amount of firearm safety training is gonna stop someone who wants to kill a bunch of people from doing so, if they can walk into a store and walk out with a gun that can fire 30 individually deadly projectiles in a matter of seconds. And increasing the number of firearms will result in more of these incidents. Period, there is no good guy with a gun deterrent when someone decides to shoot their neighbor's kid for playing hide and seek in their yard

First of all, the second amendment exists because you guys needed to murder Native Americans while expanding west, simple as. I guess they count as "hostile foreign powers", so you're technically right.

And I just find the claim that you are more free to be absurd. You guys have metal detectors and police in schools. Not to be all Foucault, but you do realize that that is a Prison? Speaking of which, the US has one of the world's highest incarceration rates. You live under several draconian laws that other countries look at with horror. Your police are legally allowed to kill you and not face any consequences if they "felt threatened". You are not living in a free country.

And again, this has nothing to do with gun safety. It has to do with what happens when you allow anyone to buy a weapon you can easily kill twenty people with from a distance without even changing magazines. The proof continues to be in the pudding, the freer the gun laws, the more people treat their guns as the universal remote. No amount of safety traqining will fix an asshole, or prevent someone from having a really bad day.

I don't know how many U.S. public schools have police officers routinely assigned to them (or "school resource officers" or whatever the Powers That Be want to call them). We mostly don't have metal detectors in schools. U.S. Department of Education statistics are that 2.7% of U.S. public schools have "Daily metal detector checks on students" (I assume that would cover fixed airport-style metal detectors at all the entrances; the wording actually sounds like teachers "wanding" everyone every day, which would be both intrusive and absurdly inefficient). Another 6% of U.S. public schools have "Random metal detector checks on students"—who knows what that means; could be anything from "weekly wandings", to "they brought in the hand-held metal detectors a couple of years ago to use on that one kid who made all those scary social media posts". 4.4% of schools either ban book bags or else require they be clear—and may I add those are profoundly stupid and intrusive policies—but most schools don't do that. (There's probably a substantial overlap between "Daily metal detector checks on students" and "Book bags must be clear or are banned", so it's not actually a full 7.1% of U.S. public schools that have those sort of hardcore prison-style security measures.)