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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#276: Jan 20th 2012 at 4:20:47 PM

Where's the fun in that.

Aldheim Since: Sep, 2010
#277: Jan 20th 2012 at 4:28:47 PM

I'm guessing not, since the race/class division was firmly in place even by 1979, when AD&D came out. Pretty much everyone looks at "dwarf as a class" as being a little silly now. (And as I recall, the "dwarf class" was basically a slightly different Fighting-Man and the "elf class" was basically a slightly different Magic-User.)

joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#278: Jan 20th 2012 at 4:48:39 PM

I should remind people that vampire is a class in 4e, so anything is possible.

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#279: Jan 20th 2012 at 4:51:08 PM

I defend vampire as a 4E class conceptually and think people that bitch about it are missing the point completely.

Exelixi Lesbarian from Alchemist's workshop Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#280: Jan 20th 2012 at 4:53:27 PM

Agreed. Being a vampire is a big enough thing to be a class. And if you want to be a vampire whatever class, just take the Dhampir bloodline and/or Vryloka race.

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joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#281: Jan 20th 2012 at 5:13:28 PM

I defend vampire as a 4E class conceptually and think people that bitch about it are missing the point completely.

wild mass guessTomu secretly works for wizardswild mass guess

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#282: Jan 20th 2012 at 5:14:23 PM

If only I did.

I'd be employed and be able to talk some sense into those asshats. As is, all I have is my ill-maintained blog.

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#283: Jan 20th 2012 at 7:26:27 PM

If I worked at Wizards, I'd talk them into re-releasing Spelljammer

joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#284: Jan 20th 2012 at 7:32:44 PM

Hey this could become a drinking game.

If I worked at wizards.... I would rerelease the Dungeons And Dragons Miniatures range and maybe work out some sort of cross promotion with Games Workshop

edited 20th Jan '12 7:34:08 PM by joeyjojo

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Aldheim Since: Sep, 2010
#285: Jan 20th 2012 at 7:37:37 PM

[up] I would also love for them to bring back D&D Minis (just with a more reasonable release schedule). GW are such jerks that they'd never agree to anything like that, though. (They have great franchises, but the company itself is awful, awful, awful.)

Obviously, I would have them bring back Planescape and Greyhawk.

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#286: Jan 20th 2012 at 8:09:51 PM

Nah. No need to cross with GW so they can further overcharge for their product.

Aldheim Since: Sep, 2010
#287: Jan 20th 2012 at 8:50:56 PM

I started playing a while back, but I just haven't been able to convince myself that a box of new Grey Knight Terminators is really worth $50. You know your hobby is overpriced when buying new hardcover RPG books seems like a bargain by comparison.

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#288: Jan 21st 2012 at 12:53:48 AM

I'm an action figure collector (Transformers if you gotta ask) and the price for 40k minis has always baffled me. Heck, one thing good about Wizards being owned by Hasbro: Minis at a decent reasonable price I'm willing to pay.. (and the 4e minis are gorgeous)

edited 21st Jan '12 12:55:03 AM by Ghilz

Exelixi Lesbarian from Alchemist's workshop Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#289: Jan 21st 2012 at 12:55:11 AM

Heh, minies. We always just used chess pieces.

Mura: -flips the bird to veterinary science with one hand and Euclidean geometry with the other-
Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#290: Jan 21st 2012 at 12:56:07 AM

I didn't own a chess set at the time (My parents do)

And the minis are frankly... cheaper than the chess set I got now :-P

Exelixi Lesbarian from Alchemist's workshop Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#291: Jan 21st 2012 at 1:04:15 AM

You obviously never saw Dusty's chess set.

It wasn't the little representational pieces you normally see. The pieces were solid metal models. The knight wasn't a little horse, he was a knight. With a lance.

edited 21st Jan '12 1:04:38 AM by Exelixi

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#292: Jan 21st 2012 at 1:15:32 AM

I've seen blinged out chest sets before. I've seen a "Great North" themed chess sets. Rooks are Igloos. Knights are polar bears, pawns are seals. Heck, my favorite Gaming store in montreal, has an entire section for chess sets. Including This beauty and This one. As well as a set made out of glass and crystal (No online pic...)

edited 21st Jan '12 1:17:42 AM by Ghilz

joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#293: Jan 21st 2012 at 5:10:00 AM

It wasn't the little representational pieces you normally see. The pieces were solid metal models. The knight wasn't a little horse, he was a knight.

ideaSo that's why the horses's 'hat' in ironclaw was the 'honorable warrior guy'!, Knightsuse horses. ....

only just got that.

edited 21st Jan '12 5:10:43 AM by joeyjojo

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#294: Jan 21st 2012 at 9:35:39 AM

If Wot C wants to actually expand their profit margin, they should freely release content, but then REALLY focus on the Dn D Minis side and battlemaps side. The more tokens and physical merchandise-rather than created content-they can incite players to buy, the better their bottom line.

This being said, new campaign settings are better for them than just adding new rules, because they give new things players will have to buy. Imagine a Spelljammer setting's miniature set!

edited 21st Jan '12 9:36:22 AM by TheyCallMeTomu

Aldheim Since: Sep, 2010
#295: Jan 21st 2012 at 9:57:10 AM

I imagine they will always be gunshy about new campaign settings (or at least new campaign settings that go beyond more than one or two books) since that is what TSR's death is usually blamed on.

joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#296: Jan 21st 2012 at 10:20:16 AM

If Wot C wants to actually expand their profit margin, they should freely release content, but then REALLY focus on the Dn D Minis side and battlemaps side. The more tokens and physical merchandise-rather than created content-they can incite players to buy, the better their bottom line.

That is actually a pretty sound business strategy Tomu.

I take back what I said earlier, there is no way you could be working for wizards

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#297: Jan 21st 2012 at 10:22:29 AM

Heh. Battlemats companies are already numerous. And since battlemats can be used across many systems, there's less temptation for Wizards to go into those.

Not that I'd not like a wizard battlemat that works with dry-erase markers. Need more Dry-erase based mats.

edited 21st Jan '12 10:22:44 AM by Ghilz

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#298: Jan 21st 2012 at 10:33:17 AM

The thing is, the aforementioned strategy would be embraced by Hasbro, who is used to selling toys-it would make Dn D into the TMNT tv show basically.

God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#299: Jan 21st 2012 at 10:43:17 AM

If I worked for Wizards, you'd all be wizards. All classes, all the time. I don't care who I'd have to murder, I'd make it happen. Because I'm crazy and so self assured my idea is the best.

edited 21st Jan '12 10:43:29 AM by God_of_Awesome

joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#300: Jan 21st 2012 at 10:45:49 AM

[up][up][up] If you ask me (which no one did, but what ever) Minis is where the real money is. Just look at how well GW is doing for itself.

Books simply can't hold the market. There is a built in psychological limit to how much people are willing to spend on rule content, and even with megaupload down people are going to pirate a sizeable chuck of your IP anyway. Information wants to be free and all that.

However you can't download figurines, and unlike digital content (and to a lesser degree, actual books) people seem surprisingly willing to fork over large sums of cash for physical items as long as they have been taught to value 'craftsmanship' and have a emotional connection to the source material.

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