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FrodoGoofballCoTV from Colorado, USA Since: Jan, 2001
#1: Dec 29th 2011 at 8:16:50 PM

I know we are moving YMMV items off the main pages for works and onto the YMMV page. However I had some clarification questions I wanted to check before I took action.

  • Should we also move YMMV tropes off character pages and onto the work's YMMV page, even though that means they'll no longer be listed with the relevant character?
  • Also I heard a rumor that Troper Works are not allowed to have YMMV tropes listed, period. Is that correct? (I would only edit my own, of course.)

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#2: Dec 29th 2011 at 8:23:32 PM

1: Yes, they're supposed to only be on the main YMMV page (I had the same question a while back). Just be careful to fix them so they actually make sense when they're not under a specific character's section. A lot of times people just cut and paste them directly from the character tabs, so you get stuff like "Magnificent Bastard: You know he is." which is just completely useless.

2: Someone who was actually around back then can correct me, but to the best of my knowledge it's been a long time since the wiki stopped caring if tropers were the ones who created a work. If it's a work, it can have a YMMV page. Actually, its highly recommended for the author not to add to it or the Crowning Moments. Too subjective, and ends up looking like "Look how awesome I am."

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Hydronix I'm an Irene! from TV Tropes Since: Apr, 2010
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#3: Dec 29th 2011 at 8:24:42 PM

I am not sure about the Troper Works. If it's published, YMMV is possible. If it's not, they really shouldn't exist until we see a published form.(as in a physical copy)

All YMMV tropes can be moved there. Even if they're on a Character Sheet. There have been some questions for where certain ones belong, mind you, but look up the current trope before moving it.

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#4: Dec 29th 2011 at 8:35:40 PM

[up] Ohhh...yeah, YMMV for unpublished works is a little bit trickier. I thought he was talking about something published, like a webcomic.

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Ironeye Cutmaster-san from SoCal Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#5: Dec 29th 2011 at 8:36:04 PM

Yes, a character page should be typed as a work's example page, and thus not have YMMV entries. Also, as was correctly stated earlier, we don't care who the source of a work is so long as the work is available for other people to consume. It is, however, recommended that you stay away from the YMMV, CMOA, CMOF, etc. pages for a work if you are its author.

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FinalStarman from Clinton, Massachusetts Since: Nov, 2011
#6: Dec 30th 2011 at 9:13:54 PM

I have seen a work whose main page and all subpages have been edited only by the work's creator. It has a Heartwarming Moments tab, a Funny Moments tab, a Radar tab, and an extensive YMMV page. Should those all go? The former two are obvious cutlist fodder, but I'm not too sure about the latter two. Should I just move the YMMV items to the main page and slap Word of God, [[invoked]], or whatever on them, or should all examples on that page just be nuked?

Here is the YMMV page in question. Not all of the examples fit*

and it's not the most well-written page ever.

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Ironeye Cutmaster-san from SoCal Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#7: Dec 31st 2011 at 1:48:43 AM

Cutlist 'em all.

The Radar page is inherently inappropriate, since as an amateur production released onto the web, there are no censors to hide inappropriate content from—not that any of the examples listed are at all sneaky in the first place. Even if it comes to whether or not the game could be hosted on particular sites, it's still "hiding" things that would otherwise be PG-13-equivalent content and would likely not cause any problems if tastefully done.

As for YMMV, Word of God is never justification for moving to the main page, as the audience may not react as intended. It looks like maybe one or two of those entries are about the events of the game, not the reactions to them—those can be moved over with the invoked tag and appropriate potholing of one of the Trope Tropes that would allow a main page appearance (e.g. potholing Lampshaded to Lampshade Hanging). Since the rest is just the creator speculating about what people could feel, the page can be cut.

edited 31st Dec '11 1:52:09 AM by Ironeye

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MagBas Mag Bas from In my house Since: Jun, 2009
TwentyOne Since: Sep, 2009
#10: Dec 31st 2011 at 7:47:45 PM

What if a work is the Troper Name for a YMMV trope?

20LogRoot10 Since: Aug, 2011
#11: Dec 31st 2011 at 8:47:22 PM

[up]Then you can slap an [[invoked]] tag on the line in the "This work is the Trope Namer for:" section.

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troacctid (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#12: Jan 1st 2012 at 5:12:23 PM

[up] Which, by the look of Trope Namer's spot in the Trivia crowner, should go on the Trivia page.

DarkSoul Since: Dec, 2009
#13: May 20th 2014 at 11:47:02 PM

I am confused. I have a characters page for my oringinal, unpublished work and for some reason it keeps getting cutlisted. I can understand YMMV and other tabs but why is my character sheet under the gun?

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#14: May 21st 2014 at 4:10:26 AM

Unpublished works are not allowed subpages. You need to publish your story.

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