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the Quantum Mechanic
Mar 30th 2019 at 4:48:51 PM

Estelle likes sneakers.

"Less With The Sweet and Awesome, More With the Stabby-Hurty."
Anomalocaris20 Salty AF from Sagittarius A* Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Salty AF
Apr 2nd 2019 at 1:34:10 PM

Yay, I can finally stop playing poker. Four fours, and on the draw no less.

Still need to get and read three more Gambler Jack books, but can confirm the achievement counter incremented for my 4 of a kind.

Game cheated me out of winnings, though. 640 x 50 is 32000, but the wager multiplier caps out at 9999.

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32ndfreeze If you get yourself killed I will skin you alive from Australia Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
If you get yourself killed I will skin you alive
Apr 2nd 2019 at 4:27:23 PM

Steam just updated a few hundred KB for the three Sky games.

I couldn't find any patch notes, but updates that small would just be translation fixes right?

"But if that happened, Melia might actually be happy. We can't have that." - Handsome Rob
Anomalocaris20 Salty AF from Sagittarius A* Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Salty AF
Apr 2nd 2019 at 4:39:50 PM

Did they fuck around with Zin's name again? tongue

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Apr 3rd 2019 at 12:12:46 AM

No, its likely an update to backend thingys. You will notice that only one actually updated, the others are all 0 kbs.

Anomalocaris20 Salty AF from Sagittarius A* Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Salty AF
Apr 4th 2019 at 1:10:42 AM

Well, completed my NG+ file of Second Chapter, with max BP. Time to move on to 3rd.

Very much looking forward to its allegedly more-flexible party member system. I wanna make some weird team combos. tongue

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32ndfreeze If you get yourself killed I will skin you alive from Australia Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
If you get yourself killed I will skin you alive
Apr 4th 2019 at 1:20:51 AM

I still maintain forced party configurations are better for story and gameplay purposes.

I much prefer being forced to figure out how to use someone new, otherwise I'll just bench 'em unless I really like the character design or play style.

Edited by 32ndfreeze on Apr 4th 2019 at 7:59:35 PM

"But if that happened, Melia might actually be happy. We can't have that." - Handsome Rob
Apr 4th 2019 at 1:53:53 AM

3rds system is quite good with its flexable system, you get lots more details on your characters if you bring them with you and at home base talking to people not in your party with people in your party leads to so many different dialogues.

Quite a few areas though its obvious exactly who you should bring for more dialogues.

TheMageofFire Wielder of Time Relationship Status: In the clutches of some Wild Love
Wielder of Time
Apr 4th 2019 at 2:04:09 AM

Ok so I just finished Trails of Cold Steel 1 over the last week and all I can say is...

HOW IS ANYONE ALLOWED TO DROP ALL THAT INFORMATION IN THE LAST TWO HOURS OF THE GAME AND EXPECT THE RECIPIENT TO SURVIVE?!

Osborne's dead! Sharon's (Ex?) Ouroboros! Vita's Ouroboros! CIVIL WAR! REAN HAS A MECH! CROW HAS A MECH! CROW IS HUGE TRAITOR! MECHA BATTLES?! HYPE FINAL BOSS THEME?! CROW'S LITERALLY YOUR VERGIL?! HE HAS A SUPER MODE TOO?! WE ACTUALLY END THE GAME CHICKENING OUT?!

Fuck May can't come soon enough. I need to get to Cold Steel 2 as soon as I can...I may do Zero while I'm waiting cause hooooo shit There's a lot that went down in Crossbell behind the scenes and I need to know what happened ON TOP OF ALL THE BUILD-UP MENTIONED BACK IN SKY 3RD!

Song 4 U
Apr 4th 2019 at 2:18:15 AM

Go grab it on PC? Or replay the game with infinite bonding points and such. There are more things to see in a second playthrough and a few hidden events that hint massively at what is going on it 2.

Edited by Memers on Apr 4th 2019 at 2:19:45 AM

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Anomalocaris20 Salty AF from Sagittarius A* Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Salty AF
Apr 4th 2019 at 11:19:05 AM

I still maintain forced party configurations are better for story and gameplay purposes.

I much prefer being forced to figure out how to use someone new, otherwise I'll just bench 'em unless I really like the character design or play style.

To be clear, I don't think one way is necessarily superior to the other. FC and SC switching your team in and out worked for them and the story they told. But now that I've gotten to know all the party members and how to use them, I'm looking forward to 3rd being a different beast by giving me (mostly) free reign. Like how some games will unlock a Free Play mode after a more restricted story mode.

Plus, characters like Anelace, Julia, and Mueller got cheated in SC. tongue

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Apr 4th 2019 at 2:20:51 PM

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darkabomination the Quantum Mechanic from cyberspace Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
the Quantum Mechanic
Apr 4th 2019 at 12:34:51 PM

3rd seems to pride itself in the first half of the game by giving you the more overlooked or unconventional characters to use first. So there's definitely time for that. It's just a shame Anelace's Crafts are barely stronger than her default attacks, because if they were balanced, her amazing equipment would make her crazy strong.

"Less With The Sweet and Awesome, More With the Stabby-Hurty."
Anomalocaris20 Salty AF from Sagittarius A* Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Salty AF
Apr 4th 2019 at 1:44:20 PM

You know what will never NOT be fun?

Defeating all of Gilbert's adds so he's all alone and helpless, and then just playing with him instead of going straight for the kill.

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darkabomination the Quantum Mechanic from cyberspace Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
the Quantum Mechanic
Apr 5th 2019 at 12:54:53 PM

That being said, having attack food for fighting Gilbert on the Glorious is much needed since it's the rare fight that gives you a timer.

"Less With The Sweet and Awesome, More With the Stabby-Hurty."
Anomalocaris20 Salty AF from Sagittarius A* Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Salty AF
Apr 5th 2019 at 3:05:07 PM

Yep, that's how I beat him the first time. With a spicy meatball.

But when there's no time limit, it's fun to just torture the poor guy~

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Apr 5th 2019 at 6:05:28 AM

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Anomalocaris20 Salty AF from Sagittarius A* Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Salty AF
Apr 11th 2019 at 1:43:04 PM

I've reached the final dungeon of Sky 3rd, and holy shit everything about this is perfect.

Using every party member instead of just a core team. The fucking amazing background music continuing to play even during battles. The chest phrases all being words of encouragement rather than usual snark.

I thought SC's finale in the Axis Pillar was pretty good, but this is already blowing that clear out of the water and I've only just begun.

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Sailing the Skies!
Apr 14th 2019 at 9:57:51 PM

So I just beat Zero and I enjoyed the hell out of it! Chapter 4 went out on a bit of a whimper all things considered but was still pretty lore heavy, while the finale was super hype and the whole Crossbell raid by the D^G Cult and the following raid on the Sun Temple with Estelle and Joshua was, while perhaps a little long, certainly quite awesome. Estelle having Phoenix Wave as her S-Craft, Barrage as a craft, and Joshua having Lightning Flash as a craft were nice touches to show they've grown stronger and incorporated some of Cassius's complete moves into their movesets, although Estelle needs Armor Rend as a final upgrade to Comet because that move is super dope.

As far as events go Renne finally reuniting with Estelle and Joshua after the final battle (I liked the little "execution phase" he had where you just got full CP bars to finish him off with supers for fun), was such a cute followup to the whole situation from the Third, and them learning all of her past and accepting her in spite of it was a really nice call-back to Estelle doing the same for Joshua in SC. The SSS returning to Ke A and the whole family dynamic they all have is adorable, and I'm stoked to learn exactly what her whole deal in Ao is going to be given her status as the "Divine Child" from the D^G cult from 500 years ago. The cult calling the existence of Aidios into question is an interesting take because I'd assumed she was guaranteed to exist given the nature of the Aureole and how it was said to come to be, as well as the ancient Zemurian civilization making me suspect she backed off when it collapsed. The Cult seems like it doesn't quite measure up to the Society in terms of scale or power, and I dunno if they'll show up again, but I am curious if they'll have any roles in the later games.

Also, one question/clarification regarding time frames and some details in Renne's background. Renne was dropped off with a friend of the Hayworth's in Calvard when she was really young, like too young to remember many details of her family, to avoid they're debts. When the serial arson occurred in Calvard, it was perpetrated by the Cult, and she was kidnapped for experimentation. Renne was taken to Paradise, the Cult lodge that was a child sex slave ring, and she was kidnapped around a young age. However, this lodge was not destroyed in the Police/Bracer joint raid and instead lasted further on due to being aided by the Crossbell chairman, before an eventual attack by Joshua and Loewe saw the two of them slaughtering all the patrons and workers of the lodge and discovering the struggling but alive Renne and taking her in. Is that roughly accurate to what happened? Because given that she's thirteen there's a relatively small timeframe and I'm trying to make sure I'm aware of roughly when all of these events occurred.

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Anomalocaris20 Salty AF from Sagittarius A* Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Salty AF
Apr 15th 2019 at 12:02:48 AM

I too just finished a game recently; Sky 3rd.

I promised I'd beat the final boss with a food item as I did SC's, and I delivered.

Now I'm wondering if it'd be possible to kill the final boss using ONLY food items... on Nightmare.

Also, some hot theories about Ouroboros:

  • Marcel Nielsen is an Anguis, probably the First Anguis since they share a Japanese VA.
  • Either Campanella or the Grandmaster herself are a Sept-Terrion guardian... or an actual Sept-Terrion in sentient form.
  • Gilbert will become an Anguis. He'll earn this position by sleeping with the Grandmaster.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything
Not really a lord of anything
Apr 15th 2019 at 12:34:41 AM

[up]Nielsen definitely seems the type who would be a member of Ouroboros but his and the first Anguis also share a voice actor with Dan Russell.

I think you're right about the Grandmaster being a Sept-Terrion though, or at least is related to one because *Ao no Kieski and Sen IV spoilers* her hair is the same color as KeA's when she's using Demiourgos' power.

Edited by LordVatek on Apr 15th 2019 at 3:35:16 PM

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darkabomination the Quantum Mechanic from cyberspace Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
the Quantum Mechanic
Apr 15th 2019 at 8:53:40 AM

I kind of just like Trails just sort of throws its hands in the air and says screw it, we'll just treat multi-colored hair as no big deal, to the point of referencing it in dialogue.

"Less With The Sweet and Awesome, More With the Stabby-Hurty."
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything
Not really a lord of anything
Apr 15th 2019 at 9:05:13 AM

[up][up]For the most part I totally agree. It's just that in this specific instance, considering the circumstances behind both characters, I think it's a little suspect.

This song needs more love.
Anomalocaris20 Salty AF from Sagittarius A* Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Salty AF
Apr 15th 2019 at 11:28:32 AM

I did see one theory that suggested *Ao spoilers* the Grandmaster is specifically the Mirage Sept-Terrion, Demiourgos, and the rumors of its suicide are greatly exaggerated.

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HailMuffins Umu! from The Moon Relationship Status: In love with love
Umu!
Apr 23rd 2019 at 5:16:24 AM

Been replaying my old The Third file, damn but the fight against Cassius is still the best Boss Fight in this franchise!

The wide world is about you: you can fence yourselves in, but you cannot forever fence it out.

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