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Yeah a good chunk of Zero is basically a Sky epilogue.
Zero gives you enough context to not be lost in that scene. You just don't get the full story.
Still IMO you should play Cold Steel 1/2 at least up to that point. Coming from the other side ruins major portions of CS up to that.
Like all the big reveals but one are spoiled in crossbell while up to Divestment they massively tip toe around it, outside of a few teases, unless you go digging in newspapers.
Edited by Memers on Jan 30th 2019 at 12:45:31 PM
So you're basically saying CS I & II > Crossbell 1 & 2 > CS III & CS IV, to preserve the maximum amount of big reveals?
Cold Steel 1 -> Acts 1 and 2 of Cold Steel 2 -> Crossbell -> Cold Steel 2 Divestment and epilogue -> Cold Steel 3 -> Cold Steel 4 -> Crossbell epilogue.
And honestly Divestment is really more like a tease for Crossbell unless you dig in the newspaper. Wish you could just skip it or have it be an extra quest option cause the epilogue has nothing to do with it and Divestment is only like an hour long.
And yes the Crossbell epilogue spoils all the way to Cold Steel 4.
Edited by Memers on Jan 30th 2019 at 3:51:58 AM
You don't have the option to skip the Crossbell epilogue if you finish Azure tho, since that's just the final cutscene that plays after the final boss and also, y'know, ends the game you were just playing.
And the Divertissment does spoil who Yin is, since you happen to be playing someone with the character's exact moveset... No need to read the newspaper to lose on that.
Edited by burnpsy on Jan 30th 2019 at 7:36:09 AM
Except that's not how the games were meant to be played. If they didn't want certain parts spoiled, they wouldn't have spoiled them.
Just to be clear, release order is what, Crosbell then Cold Steel, or is it Cold Steel 1/2 > Crossbell > Cold Steel 3/4? I'm almost done with Sky 3rd so I'm curious myself. I've just got the abyss left to do to train my party (one run for each squad for endgame to get everyone up to speed), then clearing out the remaining constellation doors (fuckin' fishing minigame has my number) and then finally ending the game. I am mildly sad that I didn't realize you couldn't get more than 4 Zemurian Ore because I used it thinking it came multiple times for some silly reason and made weapons for the team I did the abyss with (Agate, Renne, Tita, Anelace), thinking each run would land me a new set of 4. Mildly tempted to go back just because they all weren't the ones I would have wanted to make them for with only four choices, but it seems like too much hassle so I'll probably just stick with it.
Edited by Alfric on Jan 30th 2019 at 12:10:30 PM
Crossbell, than Cold Steel I-IV.
The reruns of the Abyss aren't super necessary.
The final area gave me loads of XP, and the early monsters are not too difficult to deal with.
My first three teams were just 1 strongish character (Richard, Estelle & Analace), plus the others I hadn't leveled.
And its very easy to level there since the first few fights will give you 9999 XP for everyone not totally up to date.
Have fun knowing every big plot point and very nearly every betrayal that happens in CS thanks to Crossbell. Seriously itís stupid how much they spoil one way but not the other.
I agree that Crossbell spoils more about Cold Steel than the other way around, but a play order that involves pausing a game halfway through the final cutscene to go play 2 other games and part of another one before you can unpause it is straight nonsense. Telling someone to pause a game halfway to go play another pair of games is already questionable enough as it is.
Edited by burnpsy on Jan 30th 2019 at 10:46:17 AM
I'd sooner just treat the spoilers as Dramatic Irony.
I'd also like to point out that, if we're going chronologically, Zero should be before Cold Steel 1. All of the cross-spoiling happens in Azure only. This also removes any issues caused by the Divertissment (other than the newspaper).
Zero → Cold Steel 1 → Cold Steel 2 → Azure → Cold Steel 3 → Cold Steel 4
I think I remember hearing that that play order was optimal to avoid spoiling while still getting most of the stuff in order.
To make this even nuttier, Falcom wanted to do CS after 3rd, but figured they didn't have the technology for it so opted for Crossbell instead. Then when it did roll around, the scale ballooned until it's now the longest arc by a good chunk.
I wouldn't be surprised if Falcom ends up doing the same thing by putting a couple of more mini arcs in between major arcs.
So I decided to play Zero first, since I figure once I finish it I can decide on if I want to keep playing release order, or play CS I & II between that and Azure.
A quick question I had about the translation, the copy I "obtained" has the 0.15.19 patch, and I'll need to update it to 0.15.22 once I finish downloading itnote We can talk about translation here right? I'm pretty sure we can at least. I can remove this if its not allowed .
That's the best current translation isn't it?
Also I played Sky without the voice mod, is it worth playing Zero with it?
A bit sad I won't be able to use Turbo mode, since only Geofront supports it. But nothing I can really do about that.
You might as well. Besides, it comes with just about every version of the patch. At least from what I've seen.
So, I got it installed. And also grabbed the 0.15.22 patch as well.
I followed the instructions, copying the patch files from the patch into the installed folder and replacing the old ones.
I'm having some issues with the game though. Upon opening it up I get "Cannot Find File System Data".
The game still seems to work, at least the opening cut scene. But I'm not sure if I'm setting myself up for issues later on.
Did anyone else have a similar issue?
I'm also playing in windowed for the moment, and I have a concerning issue of the window and icon on the taskbar flickering maybe once a minute or so.
Which I'm a bit worried about crashing the game.
EDIT: Took me a while, but I managed to get everything working.
I installed Borderless Gaming to let me play full screen, and because someone online suggested it as a solution to the flickering. I haven't noticed any since I installed it, so hopefully its fixed.
The controller is also a tad annoying. For some reason the joystick of my Switch Pro controller is locked into 4 directions and also moves very slowly, while the D Pad lets me run and move diagonally.
I might go for my DS 3 instead, since the pad on that is better for long term play.
I'm only about 2 hours into the game so far, so I'm looking forward to seeing how the world opens up.
The translation is bothering me a bit less now that I'm more used to it. But still a noticeable step down from Sky.
Now I just have to decide if I want to use a guide to make sure I get all the sidequests, or just play though blind.
Trails in the Sky didn't have much hidden away in sidequests that was main story important, so I'd think there wouldn't be too much I'd miss from missing a few hidden quests.
Edited by 32ndfreeze on Feb 3rd 2019 at 11:28:09 PM
I have just finished Trails in the Sky the Third, marking my joining the ranks of those who've completed the entirety of the Sky trilogy! The ending was fantastic, the final boss was a fun fight, and I'm all ready to move onto the next game! I guess I'll be doing Azure (or Zero? Whichever is the first of the Crossbell games) next, followed by the first half of CS followed by the second game in Crossbell.
What's wrong with playing the games in order?
Zero is the first Crossbell game.
I'm mostly interested in potentially avoiding spoilers for Cold Steel if possible, and I've heard Zero > CS 1/2 > Azure was a decent way to go. I'll note that if the ending of Zero is anything like the ending of Sky 1, then I'll probably jump straight into Azure anyway to continue that, so it honestly depends.
I always get that confused for some reason. I just gotta remember Zero is the earliest one in the duology.
Edited by Alfric on Feb 3rd 2019 at 9:20:52 AM
I mean, playing Cold Steel gives away the plot of Ao, so you'll still be spoiling yourself either way.
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