Yeah, unless something we've said has REALLY gripped you, prolly best to move on. Or...watch the movie, I suppose.
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The movie is much better then the book in many ways, a little worse in some, equal in others.
Anyways I was reading that spork and it was annoying me a great deal, the author seems to always be focusing on the worst possible way to take anything and seems to willfully ignore a great deal so she can make the books look inadequate, their are easy answers to many of her complaints that she either skates around or straw-mans. I wouldn't go by the sporking forming your opinion on the book.
edited 26th Mar '12 7:59:07 PM by LMage
Well, some people in this thread enjoy both sporking and story. It's why I prefaced with judging the book on how she reacted. What you said was one reaction I had already accounted for and explained.
edited 26th Mar '12 8:07:49 PM by MrAHR
Read my stories!I had never heard of sporkings before Mr.AHR mentioned it, I find it funny. Sort of like watching one of my big brother's MST 3000 dvds, but with a book instead of a movie.
edited 26th Mar '12 8:06:31 PM by SoloWingPixy
The spork annoyed me because of a couple of times the writer's logic didn't seem to inherently trump the author's (of course it was written as though it was).
So yeah, trying to hard maybe? If you can get past that, it's still okay for pointing out things I didn't even think of. Admittedly I didn't get far.
I've read both novels, and I can say that Hunger Games is at least SLIGHTLY more optimistic in tone compared to Battle Royale. On the other hand, this isn't very hard: Battle Royale instead of being about a fictional culture, it takes a society barely removed from our own and does the very same thing, and then spends the whole book exploring exactly HOW far an average person is willing to go to save themselves over everyone else in extreme situations. And in the end of Battle Royale, the heroes survive, but they change NOTHING. They've beaten the system, but the game goes on, and it's pretty explicitly stated that they escaped based almost purely on luck: the next game that happens will probably kill all but one of it's contestants, as they're intended to do.
What fans have you been talking to? The ones I know either:
A) Loved the original,and only the original
B) Loved the original and Catching Fire,but Mockingjay Jumped the Shark (That's where I stand personally,that's where Katniss becomes a full-on sociopath,Gale gets the negative Character Development when it could've been the other way,oh and it takes a very JK Rowling approach to conclusions)
C) Loved them all
Never heard of anyone who hated Catching Fire but loved the other two.
edited 27th Mar '12 2:07:59 PM by terlwyth
Well, if you ask.
The two biggest failings you can have as a sequel are (1) spending too much time following up on the events of the first book without introducing anything new and (2) rehashing the original plot. Catching Fire did both.
As my sister pointed out, Katniss spends a lot less time being a survivalist and a lot more time hefting around the Idiot Ball. Plus, you probably could have gotten from The Hunger Games to Mockingjay in a hundred pages - Catching Fire was, essentially, unnecessary. My sister's main complaint is that it was primarily "filler", to use her word. Not to say there weren't good things. The new characters were pretty interesting, and Wiress is probably the only character in the series with a focus on humor. Plus the concept of the Games was very, very cool.
And if I claim to be a wise man, well, it surely means that I don't know.I liked the worldbuilding details added by Catching Fire. Mockingjay was okay up until the end when, argh. I think the Hunger Games as a series is okay; I mean, it's one of the better YA books out there.
That sporking was good in parts but was trying too hard in others. Hilarious though.
One Piece blog Beyond the LampshadeI'm at chapter 20 and boy is this girl pissing me off. I've seen people be Oblivious to Love, but this girl deserves a freaking slap to the face!
envydei said:
edited 31st Mar '12 9:29:45 AM by Krentz
No, I mean I perfectly understand being on the recieving end of unreciprocated love, and all the feelings of guilt, repulsion, and worry it can give you, especially if you genuinely like and esteem this person. But her constant denial and her extremely cynical (yet naïvely simple, should I say "smugly stupid"?) outlook on everything that isn't a Morality Pet is truly REVOLTING.
I also understand being at the other end of that kind of love, so, well, tough shit, man. Kid's really got some bad luck, falling for a girl like her.
So I thought at least a few of these
might be amusing.
The "Attractiveness of Bakers" one annoys me. My main character was a baker before this hype, dammit!
-turns in not-a-hipster card-
edited 1st Apr '12 2:28:52 PM by SnowyFoxes
The last battle's curtains will open on stage!I am finally done with the first novel.
I pity everyone.
All of them fools, all of them hopeless, helpless, and utterly lost in their own shit.
Not a bad book, it reads a lot like the earlier parts of Project Horizons, with a first-person protagonist that was brouht up to ignore their own sense of morality and who, through the overcoming of moral-dilemma-rich battles, achieves actual moral personhood and begins to barely glimpse how the people around them actually feel. But then why have I had to pay for it, when Project Horizons was better, and available for free (though the author does take donations... thus cutting the middle man of editorial process... brilliant, isn't it?)
Well, Battle Royale is considered the grandfather of the genre of kids fighting to survive. Fictional works like The Hunger Games, Lord Of The Flies and others could be considered descendants of B.R. So I think similarities are inevitable.
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