Okay, can we seriously just make a crowner already? At least then we'll have something concrete to work with besides sniping at each other.
Reaction Image RepositoryOkay, here's
the crowner. Hopefully I didn't bork anything; I don't make crowners for TRS threads very often.
"should the entries be limited to what is supposed to be scary" That's High Octane Nightmare Fuel.
In fact, which nightmare fuel is the topic of the crowner?
edited 30th Jan '12 7:36:02 PM by Ghilz
Seems more efficient to me than multiple Single Prop crowners that still have people debating on alternate solutions on the thread proper. Besides it's not like most of these options are mutaly exclusive.
The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.@L Mage: Yeah, it doesn't have it's own option, but "cut current examples" and "disallow new examples" are both on there; if they both end up being chosen it'll be an exampleless page.
@Ghilz: Both of them, basically.
And yeah, I know that multi-prop crowners are kinda frowned upon, but this discussion was kinda going nowhere, and I tried to make sure that the options aren't horribly mutually exclusive. Some of them kinda are, but I think it's obvious that if something like both "Disallow new examples" and "examples need to be signed" get approved, the first would obviously take precedence. It's not like we can have a situation where both "Keep all examples" and "remove all examples" are both viable options.
edited 30th Jan '12 8:03:21 PM by JapaneseTeeth
Reaction Image RepositoryI misunderstood that too. I'm going to edit it to clarify that; if someone objects, it's easy enough to change back.
Also, what exactly are the arguments for not merging the two? I've heard nothing but evidence that HONF and ANF are used utterly interchangeably, yet the crowner indicates otherwise.
edited 30th Jan '12 8:04:39 PM by Noaqiyeum
ERROR: The current state of the world is unacceptable. Save anyway? YES/NOAlso, does cutting the current examples entail cutting the work-based pages entirely, too?
edited 30th Jan '12 8:09:06 PM by Noaqiyeum
ERROR: The current state of the world is unacceptable. Save anyway? YES/NOGah, sorry - I mean the subpages per each work.
ERROR: The current state of the world is unacceptable. Save anyway? YES/NOI'm under the impression that we leave the pages there; most of them will probably be promptly recreated anyway.
Reaction Image RepositoryHere's a critisism of the crowner; we have a varying amount of total votes for all the options. Some have ten, some have close to twenty.
EDIT: Come someone put a notice on the HONF page so they know their page is up for being merged? It's not exactly fair that we're talking about merging pages, but they get no heads up about it.
edited 30th Jan '12 10:54:16 PM by Shaoken
Yeah, so far, this crowner isn't proving too useful at all. So "cutting all example" and "merging" currently both are in the green, even though no one suggests that the two would make a good solution if implemented together? Merging is green but renaming is sharply red, even though a merge effectively renames one of the pages? Signing is in the green but limiting to one-entry per user is in the red, even though limiting to one entry has so far been the one argument for signing?
Plus due to the options different total count values, we can't even gage the amount of support one idea has over hte other; for instance merging and signing examples both have a 2 vote upswing, but signing has more positive votes for it than merging does (at this time). So we can have one option get higher on the crowning list despite having less upvotes for it because more people downvoted that one to make up the difference. So what exactly does that tell us? Do people feel strongly against one option but don't support another?
I have to agree with Fast Eddie's judgement on this; multi-item crowners are bad ideas because they don't give clear results.
Crown Description:
Vote up for yes, down for no.

Actually, we have both Nightmare Fuel and High Octane Nightmare Fuel namespaces, and they're used completely interchangeably.
edited 30th Jan '12 5:52:59 PM by ccoa
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.