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Haldo Indecisive pumpkin from Never never land Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
Indecisive pumpkin
#151: Dec 25th 2011 at 5:24:43 AM

But are you seriously considering depression to be a problem on the same level as PTSD or schizophrenia?
You're missing the point. We're not saying you have the worst problem in the world, we're saying you're neglecting to help yourself out for no good reason. If you really want to help other people as much as you can, that would be easier if you weren't being swallowed by your own misery.

Yes, you are going to have to face problems in your life; Everybody does. But that is not a reason not to try to fix those problems. You deserve happiness, too.

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Pyroninja42 Forum Villain from the War Room Since: Jan, 2011
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#152: Dec 25th 2011 at 5:26:35 AM

@OP: If you're feeling depressed, go and help someone. Take the focus of yourself by helping the less fortunate. It works.

"Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person that doesn't get it."
Haldo Indecisive pumpkin from Never never land Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
Indecisive pumpkin
#153: Dec 25th 2011 at 5:28:59 AM

...Oh, yeah. Zoidberg has a point: When you help others, you can't help helping yourself.

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Pyroninja42 Forum Villain from the War Room Since: Jan, 2011
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#154: Dec 25th 2011 at 5:31:12 AM

Yeah, that's right. Hannibal Has a Point.

edited 25th Dec '11 5:31:19 AM by Pyroninja42

"Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person that doesn't get it."
Icarael is All Elite from The Taguig Sprawl Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#155: Dec 25th 2011 at 5:42:54 AM

That's precisely what I've been thinking: Ignoring my problems to devote my life to helping other people.

Yes, that's it. To serve humanity, I must grow deaf to the self.

You deserve happiness, too.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

Seriously, that's the first time I've ever heard someone tell me that.

edited 25th Dec '11 5:49:17 AM by Icarael

"Stealing is a crime and drugs is a crime too BUT if you steal drugs the two crimes cancel out and it’s like basically doing a good."
Kraken Since: Jun, 2012
#156: Dec 25th 2011 at 5:49:33 AM

To be a good tool to serve others, one must not neglect the self. To neglect the self is ultimately selfish, as the earlier you face ruin, the less you can help others.

Just because your pain isn't as bad as everyone else's doesn't mean it's not pain. People go to see a doctor for both common colds as well as cancer.

Haldo Indecisive pumpkin from Never never land Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
Indecisive pumpkin
#157: Dec 25th 2011 at 5:55:27 AM

[up]This.

[up][up]No, seriously. I find it hard to believe you would be "unworthy of happiness".

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Icarael is All Elite from The Taguig Sprawl Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#158: Dec 25th 2011 at 5:57:33 AM

[up][up]

People go to see a doctor for both common colds as well as cancer.

I don't. But that's just to cut down on medical costs. I mean, I can't just run to the doctor for the smallest problem. That costs money and time.

edited 25th Dec '11 5:58:23 AM by Icarael

"Stealing is a crime and drugs is a crime too BUT if you steal drugs the two crimes cancel out and it’s like basically doing a good."
Haldo Indecisive pumpkin from Never never land Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
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#159: Dec 25th 2011 at 5:58:59 AM

Sure, but that's what cold medicine is for.

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MadassAlex I am vexed! from the Middle Ages. Since: Jan, 2001
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#160: Dec 25th 2011 at 6:06:34 AM

Icarael, what you are doing here is very selfish.

On the surface, trivialising your depression looks good because you're championing more immediate and often visceral problems, but you trivialise the depression of others at the same time. It is not your place, nor anyone's, to do such a thing. Depression is certainly a serious problem and most people, including the depressed, don't understand the extent of its influence.

Your perspective might bring you some bittersweet peace at times, but ultimately you risk dragging others with depression down with you. This is quite possibly the worst thing you could do for such a misunderstood disorder; many people fail to ever realise they have it, and plenty of those that do fail to receive effective treatment.

To me, this looks like an excuse for self-advertisement and validation moreso than providing an effective method of dealing with depression. You've completely failed to comprehend the implications of your perspective and how damaging they could be to anyone with depression who takes them to heart.

Let me repeat:

Your current perspective is definitely harmful to yourself and potentially harmful to others. It is not a noble perspective, nor a functional one. Please stop saying such things. If someone takes it aboard and stops fighting, a part of that responsibility then lies with you.

edited 25th Dec '11 6:06:59 AM by MadassAlex

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Icarael is All Elite from The Taguig Sprawl Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#161: Dec 25th 2011 at 6:09:06 AM

[up][up] The only problem is you can't get antidepressants unless you've been diagnosed with...

Ohhhhh. I get it now.

[up] I want to be proven wrong. I really do. I know that's how others think of my condition, and I know it could very well be wrong. I'm saying all these horrible things because I'm trying to find someone who'll tell me otherwise and convince me.

Because I don't wanna be right.

Because I want someone to pay attention to what's wrong with me, and help me.

I just don't know if I do need help. Or what kind of help I need.

edited 25th Dec '11 6:40:57 AM by Icarael

"Stealing is a crime and drugs is a crime too BUT if you steal drugs the two crimes cancel out and it’s like basically doing a good."
Exelixi Lesbarian from Alchemist's workshop Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Lesbarian
#162: Dec 25th 2011 at 7:54:38 AM

Nobody can prove you wrong if you don't shut up and listen.

If you wander whether or not you need help, the answer is yes . Someone that does not need help does not wander if they need help, or if something is wrong with them. As for what needs to be done, that is what you ask a gorram doctor to find out. That is what psychiatrists are for.

edited 25th Dec '11 7:59:23 AM by Exelixi

Mura: -flips the bird to veterinary science with one hand and Euclidean geometry with the other-
ThatHuman someone from someplace Since: Jun, 2010
someone
#163: Dec 25th 2011 at 8:02:06 AM

[up]Wander?

edited 25th Dec '11 8:02:15 AM by ThatHuman

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Alkthash Was? Since: Jan, 2001
Was?
#164: Dec 25th 2011 at 8:13:05 AM

[up] and [up][up] - Part of me wants to make the obvious Tolkein joke, but it's probably not as lulzy as I think it would be.

I want to be proven wrong. I really do. I know that's how others think of my condition, and I know it could very well be wrong. I'm saying all these horrible things because I'm trying to find someone who'll tell me otherwise and convince me.

Because I don't wanna be right.

Because I want someone to pay attention to what's wrong with me, and help me.

So you want to do the very same thing you accuse others of doing? Whining about stuff primarily for attention instead of trying to fix things. So yay, not only are your beliefs abhorrent and stupid, they don't even hold up to your actions.

MadassAlex I am vexed! from the Middle Ages. Since: Jan, 2001
I am vexed!
#165: Dec 25th 2011 at 8:15:33 AM

First step is to drop all the trivialisation and romanticisation. See your condition for what it is and the damage it does. Be honest.

Then, go to a psychiatrist. Be honest and open. Explain, if you must, your misgivings and doubts about coming or requesting treatment. There's no shame in seeking help.

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Exelixi Lesbarian from Alchemist's workshop Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Lesbarian
#166: Dec 25th 2011 at 8:37:31 AM

Human:er. . . Let us ignore that.

Mura: -flips the bird to veterinary science with one hand and Euclidean geometry with the other-
ThatHuman someone from someplace Since: Jun, 2010
Exelixi Lesbarian from Alchemist's workshop Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Lesbarian
#168: Dec 25th 2011 at 8:45:16 AM

One letter. One.

Mura: -flips the bird to veterinary science with one hand and Euclidean geometry with the other-
Icarael is All Elite from The Taguig Sprawl Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
is All Elite
#169: Dec 25th 2011 at 8:51:42 AM

@Alk: So you're saying I'm a hypocrite and a wangsty brat?

... Well, shit. I never thought of it that way. I thought that since I was putting it on the 'net, it was less horrible than if I did it in real life.

I suppose I should be thankful people even sympathize with me.

@Alex: I used to go to a shrink and take pills for my depression. Maybe I ought to start again.

But I'm iffy about CBT. It sounds too much like self-brainwashing.

edited 25th Dec '11 8:52:13 AM by Icarael

"Stealing is a crime and drugs is a crime too BUT if you steal drugs the two crimes cancel out and it’s like basically doing a good."
Sparkysharps Since: Jan, 2001
#170: Dec 25th 2011 at 11:02:55 AM

[up] I can assure you that CBT isn't brainwashing. It's a technique for scrutinizing your thoughts and resolving both internal and external problems.

That being said, it's not the end all of depression treatments. CBT only really addresses cognitive distortions, not emotions, and certainly not any existential angst. If you want to go about those, you'll want to do something along the lines of acceptance and commitment therapy.

Vorpy Unstoppable Sex Goddess from from from from from from from from from Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Two-timing
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#171: Dec 25th 2011 at 2:15:11 PM

People tend to think in absolutes and extremes when depressed.

Taking things step by step doesn't suit them, and sometimes they resort to self-destructive things, or unreachable goals, when in honesty, they are very impatient about it, even when they know it's going to take time and commitment.

Sometimes, they make things pointlessly frustrating and difficult on purpose so they can be depressed just a little bit longer.

let it be known this applies to me, and I have no idea what I am talking about.

edited 25th Dec '11 2:15:39 PM by Vorpy

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BlackElephant Obsidian Proboscidean from In the Room Since: Oct, 2011
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#172: Dec 26th 2011 at 2:53:14 PM

I have been doing cognitive behavioral therapy for my depression-anxiety-ptsd combo. You really have to work. Like, it requires hours and hours of writing, thought, and generally forcing yourself to distract yourself with another task instead of sitting, paralyzed and worrying that the negative things people said in the past and your own negative thoughts were right all along.

(It was already a struggle for me to even get help because I truly believed I didn't deserve help for it. My mom, who is not a therapist, had to look up milder forms of CBT just to get me to even go and get proper therapy.)

But my depression is a software issue, not a hardware issue. I don't know how well CBT would work for someone who has brain-chemistry-based depression.

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Leradny Since: Jan, 2001
#173: Dec 26th 2011 at 5:08:00 PM

As someone who has chemically-induced depression due to thyroid problems, I can give that side of the story. Positive thinking would only be a coping method at best.

Those hours and hours of work Black Elephant mentioned? If it works at all on an unmedicated person, then they will have to go through it all over again if the chemicals in their body shift.

Once a proper medication and dosage has been settled on, the coping skills they've gained could possibly allow you to act more positive than average. But I would still recommend being diagnosed by a real doctor first, to rule out any biological problems. Otherwise this will just be terribly exhausting.

InverurieJones '80s TV Action Hero from North of the Wall. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#174: Dec 26th 2011 at 5:14:34 PM

I have to say, Black Elephant is on to something for folks with, as he puts it, software problems.

I had very serious problems a few years back with....Huh. This is actually hard to type. I didn't expect that...anywho, with PTSD.

I went to a counsellor once or twice but didn't find it terribly helpful. It really was just a dogged determination not to feel like that any more that got it in the end.

Of course, that probably only works properly when the problem is psychological, not physiological.

edited 26th Dec '11 5:15:21 PM by InverurieJones

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#175: Apr 27th 2012 at 2:18:48 PM

So, what's up, thread about the topic of depression?


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