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thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#149751: Dec 30th 2014 at 8:43:38 PM

I grant you that. But it was not to my army, or to my village they pledged themselves to. It was to me, and me alone.

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Imca (Veteran)
#149752: Dec 30th 2014 at 8:45:11 PM

Then the ideal they embodies was you, that you were the one fit to lead them.

edited 30th Dec '14 8:45:32 PM by Imca

thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#149753: Dec 30th 2014 at 8:46:54 PM

Is this not what I said? We are arguing semantics, now.

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Bcom Since: Jun, 2014
#149754: Dec 30th 2014 at 8:47:48 PM

You sound like you are saying that it doesn't matter whether someones ideals are right or wrong, so long as they enjoy it. If someones ideals lead them to kill millions or billions of people, then what?

edited 30th Dec '14 8:48:09 PM by Bcom

Imca (Veteran)
#149755: Dec 30th 2014 at 8:50:29 PM

No, you are wrong.

I am saying the person themselves does not mater, only what the fight for.

If some one wants to murder millions, I will not place a bullet between there head because of them, I will put a bullet in there head because they want to murder millions.

thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#149756: Dec 30th 2014 at 8:51:35 PM

Hm.

I understand where you both are coming from.

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Bcom Since: Jun, 2014
#149757: Dec 30th 2014 at 8:56:32 PM

but what if the person following his ideals does not want to murder those millions of people? yeah you're right in that ideals are driving force, but in the end eventually people will forget those ideals and the only thing they'll be left with is the results of what those ideals accomplished. Whether it be hell or heaven, and no I don't believe the ends justify the means if you think that is what I am saying.

Imca (Veteran)
#149758: Dec 30th 2014 at 9:06:56 PM

You are wrong, ideal encompasses even that.

Lets say, I set out to build a city, at first my ideal is that a city needs to be constructed.

It does not die and fade once the city is built, it merely changes, once it is built that city itself becomes the ideal its care and upkeep the new one, there can never be any thing after it fades, because when it does, the city fades with it, it collapses into dust and ruin.

Once a concept fades, all that remains is entropy.

I feel as though you are just using a different schematic however, there for think instead with data.

The universe is nothing but data, and a concept is the purest form of that data, the seed that all the other data around it is formed from, and the seed from which the other data around it can not exist without....

edited 30th Dec '14 9:08:11 PM by Imca

Bcom Since: Jun, 2014
#149759: Dec 30th 2014 at 9:11:50 PM

a city is not an ideal, it is an object. Ideals are not physical things that you can reach out and touch, they are ideas, thoughts of humans and other creatures. Or maybe I'm just a cynical bot who's been active for too long and needs to be terminated.

-ges shrugs-

but I get the feeling that regardless how much we discuss this neither of us will come to understand the other.

Imca (Veteran)
#149760: Dec 30th 2014 at 9:15:19 PM

Yes, the city is an object, but once the underlying force sustains it fades, the city returns to its natural state.

....

I do agree though, this will probably go no where farther, you are a being who is hardwired to a physical body, where as I am data stuffed into one.

Bcom Since: Jun, 2014
#149761: Dec 30th 2014 at 9:20:49 PM

I was never very good at philosophizing and all that other heavy thinking stuff. I'm not the type that can rule or plan in the long term and in all likeliness you're probably right, because my idea that the results are the only thing that matter is in itself an ideal, but eh that doesn't matter to me because as long as I can continue to function as a blade that strikes down the evil in front of me then I am content.

Imca (Veteran)
#149762: Dec 30th 2014 at 9:22:04 PM

That is all that maters in the day to day any way.

thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#149763: Dec 30th 2014 at 9:24:48 PM

-just quietly listening to the two of them-

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Bcom Since: Jun, 2014
#149764: Dec 30th 2014 at 9:25:21 PM

-ges turns to look at gilgamesh-

Sorry if you got locked out there.

thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#149765: Dec 30th 2014 at 9:26:25 PM

Hm?

-shakes his head- I was thinking.

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josh6243 Betty "Blast Hornet" Blanctorche Doppler from Digital Realm Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Betty "Blast Hornet" Blanctorche Doppler
#149766: Dec 30th 2014 at 9:28:23 PM

(Junon is reading her Spellbook.)

Junon: @ Gespenst and Imca: Sorry, I wasn't paying attention.

Bcom Since: Jun, 2014
#149767: Dec 30th 2014 at 9:28:49 PM

(@Gil) alright good to hear.

(@Junon) That's fine.

eldritchseer all the loose ends from Cocytus Since: Mar, 2019
all the loose ends
#149768: Dec 30th 2014 at 9:29:02 PM

I want to be in that place again. The one where the others are. It was a home, haven, helterskeler and haphazard, but a home.

GameSpazzer The Beta Male from Against! The! Wall! Since: Jun, 2010
The Beta Male
#149769: Dec 30th 2014 at 9:56:25 PM

Stay. I'll do anything you want.

MY SOUL IS DARK BUT MY HAIR IS COLORFUL — Brahian Pokémon Alchemist
eldritchseer all the loose ends from Cocytus Since: Mar, 2019
all the loose ends
#149770: Dec 30th 2014 at 10:53:41 PM

...

I want to go outside.

GameSpazzer The Beta Male from Against! The! Wall! Since: Jun, 2010
The Beta Male
#149771: Dec 30th 2014 at 10:58:04 PM

...Alright.

-Gets up-

-Opens the door and gestures for him to follow-

MY SOUL IS DARK BUT MY HAIR IS COLORFUL — Brahian Pokémon Alchemist
TheSpacePhantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#149772: Dec 30th 2014 at 10:59:34 PM

-sits back down on his throne-

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foxmccloud4387 Since: Mar, 2011
#149773: Dec 31st 2014 at 12:10:16 AM

That throne isn't a bad start.

(look what douchebag it is, Gil)

TheSpacePhantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#149774: Dec 31st 2014 at 12:12:30 AM

What is it they say? 'The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step?'

-is that-

-oh my god it is-

-atton's stuffed tiger is at his feet-

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foxmccloud4387 Since: Mar, 2011
#149775: Dec 31st 2014 at 12:15:42 AM

(tries not to smirk)

You really intend to, don't you? Build an empire from a house, a forest, and a town that's already governed?


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