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Saturn Hurr from On The Rings Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: I-It's not like I like you, or anything!
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#1: Dec 9th 2011 at 6:28:44 PM

I don't think there is already a thread for this.

Who are some of the artists responsible or credited for bringing the genre they played in into the public eye?

inane242 Anwalt der Verdammten from A B-Movie Bildungsroman Since: Nov, 2010
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#2: Dec 9th 2011 at 6:31:41 PM

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#3: Dec 9th 2011 at 7:02:00 PM

Rock music was huge at least a year before Elvis broke.

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Saturn Hurr from On The Rings Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: I-It's not like I like you, or anything!
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#4: Dec 9th 2011 at 7:03:36 PM

And I'd argue with Skream and Dubstep. He invented it.

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#5: Dec 9th 2011 at 7:04:24 PM

Hip-Hop: The Sugarhill Gang, Grandmaster Caz from The Coldcrush Brothers helped too, but rarely gets credit.

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inane242 Anwalt der Verdammten from A B-Movie Bildungsroman Since: Nov, 2010
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#6: Dec 9th 2011 at 7:06:33 PM

[up][up]In a record store. WITH A PILE OF SCRAPS A CRACKED COPY OF FL STUDIO.

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Saturn Hurr from On The Rings Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: I-It's not like I like you, or anything!
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#7: Dec 9th 2011 at 7:09:41 PM

Fitting, considering all the amateur dubstep that gets made now.

0dd1 Just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2009
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#8: Dec 9th 2011 at 7:11:12 PM

Nirvana for Grunge.

...Just getting the obvious ones out of the way.

Also, the Trans Siberian Orchestra for Freakin' Rockin' Orchestral Christmas Music *headbangs*.

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ImipolexG frozen in time from all our yesterdays Since: Jan, 2001
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#9: Dec 9th 2011 at 7:23:03 PM

Metallica for Thrash Metal, I suppose.

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#10: Dec 10th 2011 at 1:51:37 PM

Hmm...

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inane242 Anwalt der Verdammten from A B-Movie Bildungsroman Since: Nov, 2010
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#11: Dec 10th 2011 at 3:23:03 PM

Japan is weird

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MidnightRambler Ich bin nicht schuld! 's ist Gottes Plan! from Germania Inferior Since: Mar, 2011
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#13: Dec 18th 2011 at 4:50:04 PM

Metallica for Thrash Metal, I suppose

Metallica did bring Heavy Metal more into the mainstream in the early '90s, but to make that possible, they had to water it down. A lot. So much that, whatever you call the result, it's not thrash metal. Compare the Black Album to Seasons In The Abyss, which was released just under a year earlier, and you'll see my point.

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inane242 Anwalt der Verdammten from A B-Movie Bildungsroman Since: Nov, 2010
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#14: Dec 18th 2011 at 4:59:48 PM

[up]Metalica actually made mainstream metal heavier. Compare their stuff to Hair Metal.

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ImipolexG frozen in time from all our yesterdays Since: Jan, 2001
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#15: Dec 18th 2011 at 5:15:46 PM

Thrash Metal by its nature couldn't become mainstream, I think. Too aggressive. But Metallica made it about as popular as it could be, before going the watered-down route.

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MidnightRambler Ich bin nicht schuld! 's ist Gottes Plan! from Germania Inferior Since: Mar, 2011
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#16: Dec 19th 2011 at 5:35:36 AM

Metallica actually made mainstream metal heavier. Compare their stuff to Hair Metal.

Well, that depends on your definition of "metal". Most of the stuff commonly called Hair Metal, I wouldn't call metal at all - rather Hard Rock or Glam Rock.

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inane242 Anwalt der Verdammten from A B-Movie Bildungsroman Since: Nov, 2010
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#17: Dec 19th 2011 at 5:40:15 AM

Exactly.

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TheGloomer Since: Sep, 2010
#18: Dec 19th 2011 at 6:46:45 AM

[up][up]You've got to consider the context; in the late 1980s, that was metal. If Metallica did anything, it was changing the popular definition of heavy metal.

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#19: Dec 21st 2011 at 4:38:53 AM

Metallica did bring Heavy Metal more into the mainstream in the early '90s, but to make that possible, they had to water it down. A lot. So much that, whatever you call the result, it's not thrash metal. Compare the Black Album to Seasons In The Abyss, which was released just under a year earlier, and you'll see my point.
If this is true, then how do we explain Iron Maiden? They've sold 70 million albums, and they never watered down their sound. If anything, they've gotten even more progressive with time.

If Metallica did anything, it was changing the popular definition of heavy metal.
I once read an interview looking at this. People tend to blame Pantera for the "New wave of American heavy metal" sound, but Ivan Moody from Five Finger Death Punch (the culmination of generic American metal) said in his opinion that the first truly modern metal album that kicked off groove-metal, metalcore and nu-netal sound was the Black Album. Thinking on it, this isn't inaccurate; just about every pop-metal song from the last 20 years has had that album in it just slightly.

Since Metallica was the best-selling band of the 90's (so I've heard), if anything it wasn't thrash they brought into the mainstream, but pop-metal (you can thank them for the Triviums and Avenged Sevenfolds of the world).

TheGloomer Since: Sep, 2010
#20: Dec 21st 2011 at 8:39:46 AM

If this is true, then how do we explain Iron Maiden? They've sold 70 million albums, and they never watered down their sound. If anything, they've gotten even more progressive with time.

Maiden seem kind of anomalous, to be honest. In the UK they've a pretty impressive series of hit singles, including one song ("Bring Your Daughter To The Slaughter") which was a number one hit for a couple of weeks. Obviously they've repeated their success almost everywhere in the world.

However, they weren't the most popular NWOBHM (such as it was) band in America during the eighties by far. Who was that? Def Leppard (oddly enough).

edited 21st Dec '11 8:44:38 AM by TheGloomer

Alucard Lazy? from Vancouver, BC Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#21: Dec 22nd 2011 at 12:48:01 PM

In this documentary about NWOBHM, Joe Elliot was talking in his interview about how little he wanted to be associated with the movement at the time and now.

"Do you remember the first time you heard that term, the new wave of British heavy metal, and what you thought of it?"
"The only thing I do remember is desperately trying no to be a part of it. Hard rock covers a multitude of genres from Van Halen to The Kinks. New wave of British heavy metal: for a start, it ties you into being British. In the mainstream press, heavy metal was always thought of as being stupid, and I didn't want us to be a part of that. I want us to be mentioned in the same breath as Zeppelin, The Who, The Kinks, The Stones, The Beatles, Pink Floyd; these were all the kind of bands that we'd seen the global success they had achieved, and that was what we were after."

If they don't want to be a part of NWOBHM, what did they popularize? In my opinion, glam metal was first really started by Van Halen; besides, Def Leppard don't want to be a part of that either.

P.S: According to the documentary, the guy who coined the term (Geoff Barton) believes Iron Maiden's debut was the first big hit in the name of NWOBHM.

edited 22nd Dec '11 12:51:30 PM by Alucard

TheGloomer Since: Sep, 2010
#22: Dec 22nd 2011 at 1:44:37 PM

If they don't want to be a part of NWOBHM, what did they popularize? In my opinion, glam metal was first really started by Van Halen; besides, Def Leppard don't want to be a part of that either.

I think Def Leppard want to be some kind of seventies glam rock band. They want to be the Sweet or T. Rex or something.

What I meant was that they were the only band that was at one point in the distant past associated with the NWOBHM tag (whether they liked it or not) that became very successful in America.

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#23: Dec 22nd 2011 at 1:59:58 PM

  • Gangsta Rap: NWA

  • Screw: DJ Screw (though he also invented it, so yeah)

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#24: Dec 31st 2011 at 8:57:36 AM

Hip-Hop: RunDMC and The Beastie Boys

Rock & Roll:Chuck Berry

Nu Metal: Korn

edited 31st Dec '11 8:58:06 AM by KingNerd

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TheGloomer Since: Sep, 2010
#25: Dec 31st 2011 at 9:26:00 AM

Didn't Bill Haley get popular before Chuck Berry? Maybe he didn't, I can't remember.

I'm trying to decide who popularised ska music. Bob Marley brought reggae into the mainstream (or at the very least, Eric Clapton's cover version of "I Shot the Sheriff" did that), but what about ska? In Britain, old Blue Beat records and artists like Prince Buster were very popular, but they never really took off in America.


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