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Higginbid vee-gor from Mt. Ebott Since: May, 2012
vee-gor
#117101: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:57:06 AM

[up][up] When he dumped Shizune for Majora, nothing bad ever happened to him. Sure, Shizune yelled at him, but he just blew it off.

IS THAT ME? AM I THE MOM?
LatverianBadger Calamity is a housewife from gacha hell Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Calamity is a housewife
#117102: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:57:22 AM

Okay, Spazz. Listen.

I understand you're an irritable person by nature. And this is completely justified seeing what you have to put up with in real life.

But saying shit like "I'm fairly certain he might be a self-insert" isn't going to help things.

"Shake the dust." - Anis Mojgani
WonderSquid Since: May, 2012
#117103: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:57:36 AM

Input: Majora mindrapes and murders him after Cloud warns him and he is brushed off as paranoid.

Output: Griff gets a new friend/later girfriend. Who is also a goddess and protects him from all harm when she's around.

@Badger: I will try to calm down. My apologies.

edited 4th Jun '13 9:58:13 AM by WonderSquid

Lilqueendaisy A chill feller from Not Earth Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
A chill feller
#117104: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:57:43 AM

...

-scratches neck-

edited 4th Jun '13 9:58:28 AM by Lilqueendaisy

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WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#117105: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:58:02 AM

So you say Chris is a womanizing asshole? I'm sorry, but that didn't come off very well, Spaz...

Also, last time I was in the FG, Griff was hugattacked by a Shoggoth. How does that work in his favor?!

edited 4th Jun '13 9:58:31 AM by WackyPancake

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
LatverianBadger Calamity is a housewife from gacha hell Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Calamity is a housewife
#117106: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:59:03 AM

Thank you.

@ Wacky: Is this really a big negative impact on him though?

"Shake the dust." - Anis Mojgani
Randomman5 "The Perfect Villain Doesn't Exi-" Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
"The Perfect Villain Doesn't Exi-"
#117107: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:59:24 AM

Fuck it, I'm done. I've got shit I gotta do. Please try to keep things civil and not passive-fucking aggressive.

Later.

edited 4th Jun '13 9:59:37 AM by Randomman5

Higginbid vee-gor from Mt. Ebott Since: May, 2012
vee-gor
#117108: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:59:45 AM

That was single comedy relief event that didn't really effect him for the worse.

Also, please don't assume that Spazz's implication that he's a self insert means that she is assuming bad things about Chrissie personally.

edited 4th Jun '13 10:00:50 AM by Higginbid

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LatverianBadger Calamity is a housewife from gacha hell Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Calamity is a housewife
#117109: Jun 4th 2013 at 10:01:46 AM

@ Hig: Of course. Still, claiming Griff to be one seems to be a rather direct jab at Chrissie's writing skills.

Criticism is alright, as long as it's not divulging into snarky territory like that.

"Shake the dust." - Anis Mojgani
ChrissieMcNapkins bruhonetta from the traphouse Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
bruhonetta
#117110: Jun 4th 2013 at 10:01:49 AM

Griff started as a random idea I had when I saw this thread.

[up]My writing skills are absolute shit.

edited 4th Jun '13 10:02:12 AM by ChrissieMcNapkins

I live in a constant state of fear and misery.
WonderSquid Since: May, 2012
#117111: Jun 4th 2013 at 10:02:02 AM

@Pancake: No. I meant self-insert in that he has basically no personality so he can be used as a cardboard cutout with a hole in it.

@Badger: Actually, that's somewhat accurate. It's not a jab at Chrissie, but it is a jab at his writing skills. Skills which he stubbornly refuses to improve.

edited 4th Jun '13 10:03:11 AM by WonderSquid

WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#117112: Jun 4th 2013 at 10:02:15 AM

Well, Griff is not very virtuous personality-wise, so saying he "must be a self insert" comes off really badly. I'm pretty sure that wasn't the intention.

And yes, the Majora thing didn't really affect him, but he otherwise fucks up so much so often it's hard to call him a Gary Stu.

[up] But he has! He's a douche!

edited 4th Jun '13 10:03:00 AM by WackyPancake

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
Higginbid vee-gor from Mt. Ebott Since: May, 2012
vee-gor
#117113: Jun 4th 2013 at 10:03:04 AM

Yes, but writing skills is what we're trying to fix here.

We've tried to go about this in a less heated manner in the past thousands of times. What now?

[up] A douche that is written to be likable.

edited 4th Jun '13 10:04:12 AM by Higginbid

IS THAT ME? AM I THE MOM?
LatverianBadger Calamity is a housewife from gacha hell Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Calamity is a housewife
#117114: Jun 4th 2013 at 10:03:46 AM

Even if they are Napkins, it's time to take some confidence in yourself.

You're not gonna get Griff out of this rut if you keep telling yourself that you can't do it.

I feel like a jab at one's skills at something can still instigate some harsh feelings. It's the snark that needs to be toned down, as I don't think this sits well with Napkins.

edited 4th Jun '13 10:05:08 AM by LatverianBadger

"Shake the dust." - Anis Mojgani
WonderSquid Since: May, 2012
#117115: Jun 4th 2013 at 10:03:54 AM

@Hig: I'm not. Not anymore. Have fun cutting down that tree with a herring.

ChrissieMcNapkins bruhonetta from the traphouse Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
bruhonetta
#117116: Jun 4th 2013 at 10:04:39 AM

I don't know what to tell you.

Shit, what else am I supposed to say besides "I'll try and improve my skills"? That won't help anything right now.

I live in a constant state of fear and misery.
Higginbid vee-gor from Mt. Ebott Since: May, 2012
vee-gor
#117117: Jun 4th 2013 at 10:05:17 AM

It doesn't matter what you say. It matters what you do. I keep saying this, but we've tried this same exact thing with you countless times.

edited 4th Jun '13 10:05:47 AM by Higginbid

IS THAT ME? AM I THE MOM?
Azure Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist from The World Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist
#117118: Jun 4th 2013 at 10:05:35 AM

I actually think Griff still has a chance though.

Chris I'm going make pretty clear what needs to happen.

Griff does not need any more girlfriends, ex- or not, nor time in other worlds.

Griff needs to be cut off from Majora.

He needs to be challenged.

He needs to change for better or worse.

Is he going to take the shit Cloud says into consideration, and change for the better, make reprimands, or is going to ignore Cloud and get worse and worse until he crosses the Moral Event Horizon.

He does not need anymore stuff added to his backstory unless it involves how he got to be such a douchebag.

Yes I am telling Chris how to write his character. Piss and moan all you want, this is what needs to happen for Griff to move forward.

Oh and Rando. Mr. Pot, you be black too.

edited 4th Jun '13 10:06:57 AM by Azure

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WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#117119: Jun 4th 2013 at 10:05:49 AM

Spaz, you don't help.

@Hig: He's likeable because he's unlikeable.

I personally find him funny, but eh.

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
Higginbid vee-gor from Mt. Ebott Since: May, 2012
vee-gor
#117120: Jun 4th 2013 at 10:06:16 AM

[up][up] This.

[up] I don't know what you mean.

edited 4th Jun '13 10:06:34 AM by Higginbid

IS THAT ME? AM I THE MOM?
WonderSquid Since: May, 2012
#117121: Jun 4th 2013 at 10:07:11 AM

Well, you could have listened to all that good advice we gave you and tried to implement some of it instead of blowing us off with "lolsorry". But since you won't do that, I'm as lost as you are.

You could check out the Writer's Block and come back when you actually have a character. But if you ignore them too, you will just be doing the same thing in another thread. So I don't know if they can help you either, considering how many times we've helped you in a calm, polite, tactful manner. And that one time in a blunt manner like this which you also ignored.

edited 4th Jun '13 10:08:03 AM by WonderSquid

LatverianBadger Calamity is a housewife from gacha hell Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Calamity is a housewife
#117122: Jun 4th 2013 at 10:07:22 AM

Chris, perhaps this is a good time to be taking Jam's writing advice.

"Shake the dust." - Anis Mojgani
WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#117123: Jun 4th 2013 at 10:07:49 AM

@Hig: He's a dick, but he's such an idiot and so unlucky you end up feeling bad for him.

Or just laugh.

Kinda like Squidward.

edited 4th Jun '13 10:08:36 AM by WackyPancake

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
Higginbid vee-gor from Mt. Ebott Since: May, 2012
vee-gor
#117124: Jun 4th 2013 at 10:07:55 AM

[up][up][up] This, too.

[up] He's not unlucky. How is he unlucky?

edited 4th Jun '13 10:08:29 AM by Higginbid

IS THAT ME? AM I THE MOM?
Randomman5 "The Perfect Villain Doesn't Exi-" Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
"The Perfect Villain Doesn't Exi-"
#117125: Jun 4th 2013 at 10:08:39 AM

Coming back real quick - Jam. What was that about?


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