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Randomman5 "The Perfect Villain Doesn't Exi-" Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
"The Perfect Villain Doesn't Exi-"
#117076: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:45:58 AM

Spazz, whatever happened to keeping things civil?

Higginbid vee-gor from Mt. Ebott Since: May, 2012
vee-gor
#117077: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:46:03 AM

[up][up] Why are even discussing this any longer? Chrissie is just going to end up ignoring us, anyway. This is pointless.

[up] We are being civil.

edited 4th Jun '13 9:46:18 AM by Higginbid

IS THAT ME? AM I THE MOM?
Lilqueendaisy A chill feller from Not Earth Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
A chill feller
#117078: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:46:10 AM

... Pancake, as much as I enjoy Griff's suffering, it need to end. The only thing I like about Griff is when he feels pain or something.

I guess... Then again nobody listens to my ideas, their either bad or ignored as hell.

edited 4th Jun '13 9:46:51 AM by Lilqueendaisy

LOVE IS STORED IN THE AXOLOTL!
WonderSquid Since: May, 2012
#117079: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:46:11 AM

@Pancake: He's not a Butt-Monkey. Read the description, and tell me again if he fits it.

ChrissieMcNapkins bruhonetta from the traphouse Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
bruhonetta
#117080: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:46:50 AM

I get it.

Griff's a shitty OC and I am a truly awful person who cannot take any advice at all.

edited 4th Jun '13 9:46:55 AM by ChrissieMcNapkins

I live in a constant state of fear and misery.
Lilqueendaisy A chill feller from Not Earth Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
A chill feller
#117081: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:47:25 AM

... Well you did your best with him. So your not that shitty. Just try another OC.

edited 4th Jun '13 9:48:12 AM by Lilqueendaisy

LOVE IS STORED IN THE AXOLOTL!
Higginbid vee-gor from Mt. Ebott Since: May, 2012
vee-gor
#117082: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:48:01 AM

You're not an awful person, it's just that you don't want to listen to any advice that we give you. You flat out ignore it and move on.

IS THAT ME? AM I THE MOM?
LatverianBadger Calamity is a housewife from gacha hell Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Calamity is a housewife
#117083: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:48:14 AM

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

Can we please, for the love of all things holy, tone down on the passive aggressiveness. Actually, fuck, this is just plain aggressiveness.

We cannot let ourselves be divided over this. People are starting to take sides, and I see this heading down shit creek.

"Shake the dust." - Anis Mojgani
Randomman5 "The Perfect Villain Doesn't Exi-" Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
"The Perfect Villain Doesn't Exi-"
#117084: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:48:59 AM

Thank you, Badger! No more passive-aggressive. At all.

Lilqueendaisy A chill feller from Not Earth Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
A chill feller
#117085: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:49:33 AM

Okay.

LOVE IS STORED IN THE AXOLOTL!
LiorVal Since: May, 2013
#117086: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:49:41 AM

Yes I agree, this is just going to cause schism in the thread. I suggest stopping it or being more calm about this.

WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#117087: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:51:02 AM

The character who is always the butt of the demeaning joke or the "put him through hell" plotline. For whatever reason, the Butt Monkey seems to walk through life with a permanent "Kick Me" sign attached to their backs, invisible to them, but all too visible to the rest of the world. Nothing ever goes right for this character, and if something bad is going to happen to someone, chances are it's going to happen to them. Long story short, it sucks to be the Butt Monkey.

Yup, dat's Griff.

Also, yes please. CALM DOWN GUYS. Remember, it's just a game.

Chris, don't beat yourself up. Some people like some characters, some other dislike them. That's why The Scrappy and the Ensemble Dark Horse exist. Me? I like Griff, I really do.

And to the rest, remember Griff is Chris' OC. He can do whgat he wants with him.

edited 4th Jun '13 9:52:21 AM by WackyPancake

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
Higginbid vee-gor from Mt. Ebott Since: May, 2012
vee-gor
#117088: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:51:07 AM

Yes, passive aggression won't get us anywhere. Let's keep it civil.

Is Chrissie still here?

edited 4th Jun '13 9:51:44 AM by Higginbid

IS THAT ME? AM I THE MOM?
WonderSquid Since: May, 2012
#117089: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:51:21 AM

@Napkins: This is the internet. If you can't take criticism, you shouldn't publicly display this crap for all to see — in a forum RP, no less. We've given you more than enough time, direct help, advice, and chances, and you just nod and smile with your fingers crossed.

@Pancake: Read all of it.

edited 4th Jun '13 9:52:06 AM by WonderSquid

ChrissieMcNapkins bruhonetta from the traphouse Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
bruhonetta
#117090: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:51:27 AM

[up]I can take criticism.

I don't take well to being passive-aggressively insulted over a fictional character.

edited 4th Jun '13 9:53:09 AM by ChrissieMcNapkins

I live in a constant state of fear and misery.
Azure Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist from The World Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist
#117091: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:51:33 AM

Griff isn't realy a butt monkey.

He gets all the girls.

He gets away with absolutely everything he does.

He makes stupid decisions without any real negative effect.

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rockmanx Since: Jun, 2011
#117092: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:51:34 AM

What pancake and higg said.

edited 4th Jun '13 9:52:09 AM by rockmanx

Lilqueendaisy A chill feller from Not Earth Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
A chill feller
#117093: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:52:10 AM

[up][up]Gary Stu?

... Damn it why cant I listen to my gut when it tells me things!?

edited 4th Jun '13 9:53:00 AM by Lilqueendaisy

LOVE IS STORED IN THE AXOLOTL!
Randomman5 "The Perfect Villain Doesn't Exi-" Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
"The Perfect Villain Doesn't Exi-"
#117094: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:52:31 AM

Griff doesn't actually get all the girls. He hits on all of them, but we were going to make it clear that his time in Gotham was a long string of failures.

Higginbid vee-gor from Mt. Ebott Since: May, 2012
vee-gor
#117095: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:52:39 AM

Rock, once again, this is the discussion thread. We are discussing the thread.

Chrissie, I'm sorry, I haven't really seen any effort. I can't agree with that.

edited 4th Jun '13 9:53:20 AM by Higginbid

IS THAT ME? AM I THE MOM?
WonderSquid Since: May, 2012
#117096: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:52:52 AM

No, we cannot. This is the discussion thread, Rock.

WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#117097: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:54:17 AM

@Daisy: Nah. A Gary Stu is always right and never fails. Griff's aways wrong and never wins tongue.

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
Higginbid vee-gor from Mt. Ebott Since: May, 2012
vee-gor
#117098: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:54:54 AM

Except when he does. Which is always. They sure look like failures, but they always go in his favor.

edited 4th Jun '13 9:55:26 AM by Higginbid

IS THAT ME? AM I THE MOM?
Randomman5 "The Perfect Villain Doesn't Exi-" Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
"The Perfect Villain Doesn't Exi-"
#117099: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:55:33 AM

Name one thing Griff has "won."

WonderSquid Since: May, 2012
#117100: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:55:59 AM

His "consequences" (which are mostly his fault, contrary to the trope description) are more inconveniences than anything else. He doesn't experience any real repercussions, partially because he is immune to all character development and likeability.

Speaking of which, I am fairly certain he might be a self-insert.


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