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WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
GameSpazzer The Beta Male from Against! The! Wall! Since: Jun, 2010
The Beta Male
#49802: Jan 18th 2013 at 2:38:03 PM

Actually, Czer is a better example. See here. It's when basic logic overrides willing suspension of disbelief, plot armour, and convenience.

edited 18th Jan '13 2:38:16 PM by GameSpazzer

MY SOUL IS DARK BUT MY HAIR IS COLORFUL — Brahian Pokémon Alchemist
Randomman5 "The Perfect Villain Doesn't Exi-" Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
"The Perfect Villain Doesn't Exi-"
#49803: Jan 18th 2013 at 2:39:09 PM

"You are not the GM. Trust me. You're not. I checked the ballot. It said Duffy. I'm almost certain it did."

Slightly off-topic, but I couldn't stop laughing when you said that.

Lilqueendaisy A chill feller from Not Earth Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
A chill feller
#49804: Jan 18th 2013 at 2:40:19 PM

I. GET. IT. Daisy is a bad character because logic and I should get rid of her as soon as possible. Ill do that when I get chance.

edited 18th Jan '13 2:40:53 PM by Lilqueendaisy

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rockmanx Since: Jun, 2011
#49805: Jan 18th 2013 at 2:40:25 PM

Logic and continuity are important in a plot and stuff.

WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#49806: Jan 18th 2013 at 2:41:21 PM

[up][up][up][up] Right. But it really shouldn't force people to change/retire/do certain stuff with their character if they don't want it.

edited 18th Jan '13 2:41:31 PM by WackyPancake

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
GameSpazzer The Beta Male from Against! The! Wall! Since: Jun, 2010
The Beta Male
#49807: Jan 18th 2013 at 2:41:49 PM

@Daisy: That was less for you and more an explanation for Pancake's sake. Let's try to keep calm here. And she's not a bad character, she just doesn't work as well as she used to.

[up]When said characters start creating plot holes and idiot balls with their mere presence, yes, they do. It's not fun, and it sucks, but it's necessary.

edited 18th Jan '13 2:43:20 PM by GameSpazzer

MY SOUL IS DARK BUT MY HAIR IS COLORFUL — Brahian Pokémon Alchemist
Lilqueendaisy A chill feller from Not Earth Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
A chill feller
#49808: Jan 18th 2013 at 2:43:58 PM

I know... Just main problem I have with switching her is she has grown to liked by some characters. Switching her in the middle of plot would kinda make me feel kinda sad. Spazz I'm trying really hard to keep her in logic level. I promise. Ill even have her stay behind.

edited 18th Jan '13 2:46:05 PM by Lilqueendaisy

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Imca (Veteran)
#49809: Jan 18th 2013 at 2:44:27 PM

... I may have a tempoary idea to try to hold back logic, but I dont know if it would work.

What if any of the characters sort of... acted like a parental figure to her?

Would that defer any of it, since a kid would obviously want to stay with there parental figures, and visa versa?

Randomman5 "The Perfect Villain Doesn't Exi-" Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
"The Perfect Villain Doesn't Exi-"
#49810: Jan 18th 2013 at 2:45:18 PM

And if Daisy is killed off, that'll be terrible. The Doctor will go nuts, Mat will probably become some form of depressed and Sagi will go from zero to Afterling in half a second.

WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#49812: Jan 18th 2013 at 2:45:46 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]What's with Daisy anyway? She's worked fine until now, They are ways to write around plot holes and shit. You could say Daisy somehow snuck inside a suitcase or something and the characters brought her around unknowingly (I could actually see this happening). Besides, it's not bad to have a child among your adventuring group. It isn't too realistic, but then again, this isn't real life.

edited 18th Jan '13 2:46:39 PM by WackyPancake

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
GameSpazzer The Beta Male from Against! The! Wall! Since: Jun, 2010
The Beta Male
#49813: Jan 18th 2013 at 2:46:19 PM

[up][up]This. One of the reasons I got Alpha out of the way is that he's just an unarmed kid. He really doesn't stand a chance. So, goodbye Alpha.

[up]She hasn't worked fine until now. Problems have been cropping up since day one, but it's only in Duffy's and my plots that they've really started to become jarring.

edited 18th Jan '13 2:47:33 PM by GameSpazzer

MY SOUL IS DARK BUT MY HAIR IS COLORFUL — Brahian Pokémon Alchemist
Lilqueendaisy A chill feller from Not Earth Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
A chill feller
#49814: Jan 18th 2013 at 2:47:12 PM

@Imca: She already has 3 figures, Doc, Meggers, and Sagi.

... Look, Ill retire okay? I really don't want to start bad thinsg like this. :c

edited 18th Jan '13 2:51:16 PM by Lilqueendaisy

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Randomman5 "The Perfect Villain Doesn't Exi-" Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
"The Perfect Villain Doesn't Exi-"
#49815: Jan 18th 2013 at 2:48:12 PM

Then she could just stick around Sagi. Dude can cut through tanks, she'd be safe. It's also why I had Sagi equip her with Cross Pendant.

GameSpazzer The Beta Male from Against! The! Wall! Since: Jun, 2010
The Beta Male
#49818: Jan 18th 2013 at 2:51:11 PM

@Daisy: No one said you had to do that. Just age her up or something so it makes sense for people to keep dragging her into firefights.

@Pancake: There's also the problem that Daisy started out strong, but hasn't really developed over the course of the plot. She hasn't really done much besides cry and act cute. And Daisy, before you start spamming frowny faces, this does not mean I want you to scrap her. She simply needs a little work.

edited 18th Jan '13 2:52:00 PM by GameSpazzer

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ArmoredFury she is one steamed bun tall from amidst flowers and gunsmoke (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
she is one steamed bun tall
#49819: Jan 18th 2013 at 2:51:32 PM

Actually, should Daisy is older than 12, I want to have Alex teaches her some basic self-defense and firearms training. I might need to wait until Deluge is finished, though.

edited 18th Jan '13 2:51:52 PM by ArmoredFury

Nothing seems to have changed. But perhaps one day it will.
Lilqueendaisy A chill feller from Not Earth Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
A chill feller
#49820: Jan 18th 2013 at 2:52:06 PM

[up][up]Okay... How do I do that?

[up]Shes 7.

edited 18th Jan '13 2:52:41 PM by Lilqueendaisy

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StrawberrytheSecond Just a Bug from the Ark Since: May, 2012
Just a Bug
#49821: Jan 18th 2013 at 2:53:17 PM

I hat to say it but we may just have to use the "R" word.

This is a robbery. Give me all of your money and I'll kill you.
ArmoredFury she is one steamed bun tall from amidst flowers and gunsmoke (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
she is one steamed bun tall
#49822: Jan 18th 2013 at 2:54:21 PM

Exactly. You said that you want to age her after this plot is finished, right?

@Jam: "R" word?

Nothing seems to have changed. But perhaps one day it will.
GameSpazzer The Beta Male from Against! The! Wall! Since: Jun, 2010
The Beta Male
#49823: Jan 18th 2013 at 2:54:30 PM

Pyro has already offered up a possible solution. The rest is up to you.

MY SOUL IS DARK BUT MY HAIR IS COLORFUL — Brahian Pokémon Alchemist
Lilqueendaisy A chill feller from Not Earth Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
A chill feller
#49824: Jan 18th 2013 at 2:55:52 PM

... Ill try that.

And I kinda thought Alpha would try to play tome and look for door on purpose, then end up with group as Alpha.

edited 18th Jan '13 2:57:46 PM by Lilqueendaisy

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StrawberrytheSecond Just a Bug from the Ark Since: May, 2012
Just a Bug
#49825: Jan 18th 2013 at 2:57:13 PM

   Retcon   

So we don't suddenly have Daisy age up.

There is still the problem that she's...a toddler basically.

edited 18th Jan '13 2:57:56 PM by StrawberrytheSecond

This is a robbery. Give me all of your money and I'll kill you.

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