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SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
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#480676: Feb 14th 2016 at 1:50:02 PM

Dave Filoni, the main mind behind Clone Wars and probably the one guy who consistently argued sensible alternatives to Lucas over the entirety of the show, had some interesting ideas about what would have happened if Palpatine had not survived Mace.

Mace would have gone to jail. He went right to the head of state and chopped him into itty bitty seared chunks, with no real evidence that he was a Sith. Hell, the general population didn't know what a Sith was - Jedi deliberately kept it secret from most. There are no cameras or listening devices in the Chancellor's private office, for obvious reasons. He was pretty much universally beloved as the Chancellor who got shit done, even though it was always to counter the Separatists that he secretly lead as well. So the trial would be an uphill battle for the Jedi.

edited 14th Feb '16 1:50:32 PM by SR3NORMANDY

What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?
RegularDefender MAYONNAISE from Blighty Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Singularity
MAYONNAISE
#480677: Feb 14th 2016 at 1:51:42 PM

But on the brightside to that- the Republic doesn't become the empire, and the Jedi order would probably survive that ordeal.

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SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
Problem Child
#480678: Feb 14th 2016 at 1:53:37 PM

True, but it would shatter what little faith remained from the Republic for the Jedi Order. If you kill your own leader and try to get a replacement you like, that's a military coup.

What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?
RegularDefender MAYONNAISE from Blighty Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Singularity
MAYONNAISE
#480679: Feb 14th 2016 at 1:56:51 PM

When the alternative is basically a genocide and book burning on a level of literally only a couple of decades later, they're considered almost a fantasy though.

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SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
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#480680: Feb 14th 2016 at 2:04:17 PM

To be fair, the Jedi were considered a myth throughout the Outer Rim even at the height of Jedi power. Galaxy's a big place.

As for the Core Worlds, even those that knew the Jedi exist didn't usually understand the Force. For them, the Jedi were a bunch of monks that took missions from the Senate and lead clone armies and said mystic stuff. Actual knowledge of the Force was closely guarded at the Jedi temple. Palpatine was able to sell the story of the Jedi being these treacherous fanatics who went mad with power and were secretly manipulating the galaxy. The Jedi weren't helping their image in that regard, bombing planets, loosening their morals, taking active military commands.

Han probably understood that there were these guys called Jedi, but doubted this old geezer was one, and even if he was he'd never believe his superstitious nonsense.

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Trip Since: Mar, 2012
#480681: Feb 14th 2016 at 2:06:15 PM

out of all the characters forced into the prequels where the fuck was han

RegularDefender MAYONNAISE from Blighty Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Singularity
MAYONNAISE
#480682: Feb 14th 2016 at 2:14:45 PM

Still.

Between.

The Jedi still existing.

And a purge of an entire ideology.

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Trip Since: Mar, 2012
#480683: Feb 14th 2016 at 2:16:37 PM

switching the topic to mass effect: i just remembered kasumi existed

that was a fun mission

SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
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#480684: Feb 14th 2016 at 2:20:31 PM

When you have around two thousand Jedi, keeping all their history and knowledge in one building and a couple of other sites, it's easier than you think.

There's this novel series called Fate of the Jedi which really well illustrates just how little the average person understood the Jedi, and how easy it was for the Empire to impose their version of events.

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#480685: Feb 14th 2016 at 2:21:50 PM

There is absolutely no way killing Palpatine would have ended as badly for the Jedi as letting him live did.

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SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
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#480686: Feb 14th 2016 at 2:23:18 PM

I agree, and so did Dave Filoni, he was just shooting down the old fan notion that things would have been wrapped up perfect if Anakin had let Windu kill Palps.

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Trip Since: Mar, 2012
#480687: Feb 14th 2016 at 2:23:22 PM

war > total genocide

dnt ignor me

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#480688: Feb 14th 2016 at 2:39:29 PM

Another thing was that the Jedi's original plan was not to kill Palpatine but to capture him and put him on trail.

Even without being a Sith Lord the guy had dirty deals all across the galaxy. Specifically his deals with the Banking Clan. If those were brought to light the Jedi could recover some in the public eye. And if push came to shove they could have ousted Mace as going rogue and "exiling" him to show that they aren't just butchers.

Which might have lead the series in an interesting direction.

And there's also the fact that George doesn't often consider the deeper implications of the things he writes....

Oh no Trip, we're talking about Space Skirmishers.

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Trip Since: Mar, 2012
#480689: Feb 14th 2016 at 2:43:44 PM

galaxy arguments < large consequence

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#480691: Feb 14th 2016 at 2:55:22 PM

"There are no cameras or listening devices in the Chancellor's private office, for obvious reasons"

will just say that the novel has there actually being one, just one though

but of course Palpatine actually knows about this and uses it to make it sound even more like "defenceless old man about to get chopped to pieces by four Jedi, saved by a True Hero"

so yeah it would have absolutely seemed like a military coup

edited 14th Feb '16 2:55:42 PM by ThanatoSeraph

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#480693: Feb 14th 2016 at 3:03:59 PM

This all could have been avoided if they had just let C 3 PO wear Jar Jar's skin.

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RegularDefender MAYONNAISE from Blighty Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#480694: Feb 14th 2016 at 3:08:02 PM

Or if Anakin crashed and burned in pod racing.

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ChrissieMcNapkins bruhonetta from the traphouse Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
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#480697: Feb 14th 2016 at 3:16:19 PM

phantom menace still makes me ill

I live in a constant state of fear and misery.
Bcom Since: Jun, 2014
#480698: Feb 14th 2016 at 3:24:00 PM

I agree, but somehow i still prefer the product we got to what george lucas really wanted to do with it.

for example: he planned for greedo to appear as a child during the pod racing stuff, with his friends saying how bad a shot he is with a blaster. You know, in an effort to make sure people treat the edited versions of the original trilogy as canon so that it would suddenly be explained how greedo missed a shot at point blank.

RegularDefender MAYONNAISE from Blighty Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Singularity
MAYONNAISE
#480699: Feb 14th 2016 at 3:38:23 PM

It doesn't matter how good of a shot you are.

How do you miss a shot that close- you'd probably at least hit the guy.

Maybe not in a place that'd kill him.

But still.

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TooManyIdeas Magical Princess From Another Dimension from Twilight Town (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
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#480700: Feb 14th 2016 at 3:50:24 PM

How do you miss a shot that close- you'd probably at least hit the guy.

You don't play XCOM do you tongue


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