Uh, which one? ._. I might be not in my best psychically-mental condition(to be honest, I'm a bit exhausted), but...
- 1. No Rape - Sure, no rape. Nothing happened.
- 2. No Plot - Alright, I guess I'm guilty of it.
- 3. Interaction - Interacting.
- 4. IC - Uh, truth be told, I've no idea what that is, but I don't think I've ever been reminded about it.
- 5. Godmodding - Well, there's Discord, but he hasn't seen the room in a long while.
- 6. Fanservice - Toned it down.
The meta thing. The specific event we're using as an example is Lilith knowing about Wily and Zero. How does she know? Why? It seems like godmodding and metagaming.
As tempting as it might be, it's not much fun for other people to interact with a character if they already know almost everything about that character. It's also a bit irritating when people start describing your character for you.
And, coming from my perspective, it's been done to death and is getting annoying.
Coincidentally, another RP I'm involved in is having the same problem, so I'll just quote Doctor Thunder and Deadbeat here:
Doing it that way takes away from any sort of narrative we might be trying to set up in favor of a meta-heavy plot, and it essentially reduces the characters in a way that limits or, in some cases, completely discourages character growth, because they've already been completely defined by how they acted wherever they originally came from (a situation vastly different from the crossover game they're in, most likely). In other words, they've been given an outline of how they "should" act, based on what another character shouldn't actually know about them, and that's not a good thing, because it limits the ability for people to get creative with their characters.
edited 10th Jan '13 12:25:18 PM by GameSpazzer
MY SOUL IS DARK BUT MY HAIR IS COLORFUL — Brahian Pokémon AlchemistGodmodding. To be quite frank Ferg in just about every fight your characters have been in you pull out some excuse as to why said attack will not affect your character. You No-Sell everything. And then try to paint all you attacks as uber powerful and should take guys out in one hit.
This is a robbery. Give me all of your money and I'll kill you.Hm. I see.(nod) ...On the other hand, I don't think there's been any instance of meta in a longer while. That being said, there is no problem in toning it down, but, being honest, I feel like it's only Jam and Spaz who have problems with it(although others did not state their opinions yet, so I guess I'm being mistaken). Also, I do not agree with the statement that telling someone their story limits their character development. Maybe because of that, their development will go somewhere completely different?
That being said, I do apologize. I'm not in the best of conditions right now, I might be doing silly things.
...What? Now that's silly. Alright, Goldbaum(who did get his ass served a time or two) and Hazama were serious offenders, but I've no idea where that other thing come from. I do No-Sell a fair bit of things, I admit, but it's not everything and the attacks themselves are not as powerful. I mean, come on. Shot from a Desert Eagle? Comparing to things like, say, Cloud's any sword or Zero's Z-Saber or anything else that's pretty tame.
I might be missing something though. Please, specify those certain cases.
edited 10th Jan '13 12:33:28 PM by FergardStratoavis
To be honest, I didn't really mind the talk Lilith had with Zero, since it ended before she told him too much. Plus, Zero would have figured it out on his own, considering he had a dream about an old man and headaches whenever the name of an infamous old man robotics expert is mentioned. Also, Zero wouldn't have an existential crisis from learning he's a game character - he doesn't give a damn who built him or what he was built for, so why should he care that he's a game character?
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That too. Though I can't recall any recent fights, apart from the skirmish upstairs. Although that's probably because I just leave during them.
Then why not just have him figure it out on his own? Also, again, the "done to death" thing. It's not so much the existential crisis thing as it is the exposition and overuse thing that we have problems with. And we're talking in general here.
edited 10th Jan '13 12:35:09 PM by GameSpazzer
MY SOUL IS DARK BUT MY HAIR IS COLORFUL — Brahian Pokémon Alchemist@Ferg:That's still limiting it though because now the character has to stop and deal with that knowledge. What if the player never wanted that? Or wanted to reveal that later? But Thank you for apologising and do work on the invincibility thing.
@Random:This wouldn't be a problem if it was with most of his characters. I mean Samael's whole point is that he's a meta-bomb.
Ferg you No-Sell everything. The only way your characters get hurt in anyway is that you take them out yourself. Example: Saber She has an A rank in Magic so she can shrug off firaga like its nothing.
edited 10th Jan '13 12:38:42 PM by StrawberrytheSecond
This is a robbery. Give me all of your money and I'll kill you....Samael's not a meta-bomb. Is he? ._. I don't recall him being meta, apart from that one incident with Gendo and Angels and even then it was played pretty straight.
@Jam: Oh, alright, I get it.
Saber example is sort of a failed one, considering how she has appeared very briefly under my command. And no, seriously, I do not happen to ignore all of it. ._.
...I'm sorry. My Idiocy Level has raised recently... DMC: The Stupid Files might have something to do with it. -.-
edited 10th Jan '13 12:42:18 PM by FergardStratoavis
...He didn't even pull a fight. There's a countless number of "mighty" characters frequenting the room, be it The Outsider, Angra Mainyu, YHVH... Unless I'm missing the point, I don't understand the flak Samael receives from you.
...No, Jam, really. I want an example of this actually happening, because so far it's only a baseless conjecture.
edited 10th Jan '13 12:45:50 PM by FergardStratoavis
Jam, what meta-bombs? Please, give me an example. Any example. I still have no idea about what you're talking about.
Also, invisible? Well, he surely appears the part, but that invisibility might have something to do with him not being involved in any fight or conflict so far.
...I really don't get what you want to say.
Also, changed the link to an appropriate format for phone-people. Sorry, you guys.
Well alright. Best of luck. But I have to besides the meta thing the demon world you built up was kinda interesting. Interesting enough for me to base another one off of it. Your R Ping isn't all bad. Its just today we had to highlight some of the things we felt you weren't doing so well in.
This is a robbery. Give me all of your money and I'll kill you.

D:
...Uh, I what? ._.
edited 10th Jan '13 12:48:41 PM by FergardStratoavis