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SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
Problem Child
#474776: Jan 9th 2016 at 11:05:09 PM

Also, I will keep this signature until Spaz gets up to date on Doctor Who and just points at me going "You! Yooooouuuu!"

What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?
WonderSquid Since: May, 2012
#474777: Jan 9th 2016 at 11:07:07 PM

i've honestly gotten pretty burnt out on doctor who between moffat's less-than-stellar writing and the fanbase making me ashamed i ever watched it

SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
Problem Child
#474778: Jan 9th 2016 at 11:12:23 PM

Series 6 to 7 was a slump, I will admit. But Series 8 and 9? Massive, massive improvement. Less complications, more fun. More originality. More cleverness. The episodes are some of the most consistently good ever.

Give it a chance. Two out of three of my favourite episodes of all time are in 8 and 9 respectively. Both penned by Moffat. The guy has really hit his stride.

What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?
ramuf Electric Heart from the Shining Throne Since: Jan, 2013
Electric Heart
#474779: Jan 9th 2016 at 11:17:50 PM

Grumble grumble.

Kind of feel like I got dumped there.

edited 9th Jan '16 11:18:52 PM by ramuf

SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
HilarityEnsues Since: Sep, 2009
#474781: Jan 9th 2016 at 11:29:31 PM

i miss the david tennant era of who, i think it did just about everything correctly

especially striking the balance between being a silly adventure scifi show and a relatively series drama with weight behind it

now i feel like things have just gotten off the rails

i don't have a super great memory but one example that sticks out like a sore thumb is that whole "Kill the Moon" episode

like really, you're going to make a doctor who episode with abortion subtext - you already went way off the deep end from the start here - and the way you do this is with a giant dragon egg that takes the place of the moon

??????????????

what the hell is the matter with you

capaldi is great but there's only so much he can do when he's handed moffat's crazy fever dreams and told to make the best of it

ramuf Electric Heart from the Shining Throne Since: Jan, 2013
Electric Heart
#474784: Jan 9th 2016 at 11:42:30 PM

I kinda just got straight-dumped and I'm a bit frustrated.

Trip Since: Mar, 2012
SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
WonderSquid Since: May, 2012
#474787: Jan 10th 2016 at 12:07:06 AM

don't you fucking "grumble grumble" me, cut that passive aggressive shit out and address me like a person

Do you want to know why that happened? I'll tell you.

  1. Julie was doing fuck all, just like she always does. You never have her do anything other than make polite chitchat because you are unwilling to make any major moves with her and get mad if someone else tries to do it for you.
  2. This makes any interactions with her pointless as she does not change between any of them.
  3. These two easily fixable problems are compounded by the fact that you never initiate anything yourself, and rather than have her follow anyone inside you have her sit there and sigh because you assume anyone not paying a hundred percent attention to you is "taken".
  4. I am pretty much the only person left that puts up with this and you get mad if I am not paying a hundred percent attention to you.
  5. You don't even like half the people here and refuse to interact with them if I am not online.
  6. Constantly catering my every move to you to deflect your tantrums from everyone is draining and is gradually destroying my enjoyment of this game.
  7. Interacting with someone that might yell at you if you try to do something else is not fun, nor is constantly doing this to no end because as mentioned before you never have Julie grow or change at all simply because you don't want to. You could, but don't don't want to. So here I am pissing in the wind for no benefit.
  8. My throat hurts and my head is killing me and I am not in any mood for more passive aggressive shit.
  9. I have had this planned with Norm for months and you don't even give me ten goddamn minutes to execute it because you want to have Julie make small talk so I can listen to it.
  10. You know exactly what steps to take and how to take them and you refuse to at every turn, and I am tired of dealing with it constantly.

I know this is probably rude but I want to have fucking fun and I never fucking get to and I'd probably be a lot more patient if you weren't constantly so volatile about this.

WonderSquid Since: May, 2012
#474788: Jan 10th 2016 at 12:09:31 AM

And stop ignoring Trip, he's put out as many lifelines to you as I have, probably more.

SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
Problem Child
#474789: Jan 10th 2016 at 12:29:20 AM

If you're awake, Ram, I think what Spaz has to say deserves a response.

If you're asleep, it'll still need some kind of response tomorrow.

What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?
ramuf Electric Heart from the Shining Throne Since: Jan, 2013
Electric Heart
#474790: Jan 10th 2016 at 12:34:14 AM

Holy christ, I didn't even begin to think I was going to generate this kind of response.

Look, I'm sorry. I shouldn't have been passive aggressive, I know that. My bad, I'll admit that and own up to it.

I didn't even ignore trip, also, so I'm not sure how exactly that's relevant. Unless I missed something, I didn't see anything from him that I ignored.

It's late and I want to sleep anyway, so I can't type up something huge and sprawling even though I want to.

I'm quite aware that I don't do anything. I hate it. Everyone hates it. I don't like it as much as you don't like it.

But the thing is, I lost my momentum a few months back. I think everyone knows that. I lost my step, and that's probably fairly clear to everyone.

And I've been horrible about it. I've admitted as much. I know. I'm not blind to my actions or my statements. I'm bad at keeping a lid on it. I'm aware of it. It may not seem like it, but I am.

I've been walking on eggshells, or at least I feel like it. I know that I've alienated people, which is my fault. I flipped out and I ruined things. I'm not going to act like I haven't. I'm not going to lie and I'm not going to try to avoid that.

A month or so ago, right in the middle of the very worst of how I've been acting, I made a choice to fucking do something. And so I did. I was told to go get people, to be assertive, and I made an honest, concerted effort to do so. I felt pretty damn good. I was making progress.

Then break came along and for reasons that aren't fully relevant, the wind under my sails vanished. It just wilted away. I sputtered around for two weeks or so, vacillating between being active and being passive.

It sucked. It sucked for me and it sucked for everyone else. Then break ended and here I am. It started out rocky but things've normalized. I go after people. I've taken the advice I was given to heart, and I've done something.

I'm sorry that I'm boring. That I don't do anything. That I'm stagnant. All of that. But please understand, I know I lost my stride. My confidence is shot, but I still try to reach out.

I know you don't like what I do, or what I try to do. And you're not wrong for that. But please, don't just cut me off like that. I'm trying to do things right again. I haven't done it perfectly.

But I'm making an effort towards it, and if what I get in response is being run away from or chided, it's not gonna go anywhere.

You say that I know what steps to take, and you're right, I do. I know what those are, and those are what I'm trying to do. Just give me a chance to get back on my feet. That's all I'm trying to do, and even if it's awkward and god-awful, there's no way around it.

I can't go back to how things were if no one trusts me to do anything. I might not deserve that trust, but it's what I'm asking for. I have not just stood idle. I have made an effort, and I'm just humbly, sincerely asking that I be given a chance.

I'm tired, and as I look back on what I wrote I have realized I have started to repeat myself. That's what happens when I'm really tired, I guess.

In regards to the points you raise that I may have accidentally overlooked: I don't dislike half the people here. I don't think I really dislike anybody here, honestly. I'm ready, willing, and goddamn eager to fix any and all grievances people have. I don't hate anyone here, and if I have to make a fool of myself to make that clear, then I'm going to do it.

In summation: yes, I've been terrible, but I'm doing my best, and if things are to reach any sort of progress beyond what I've done, I need a little breathing room.

edited 10th Jan '16 12:36:26 AM by ramuf

WonderSquid Since: May, 2012
#474791: Jan 10th 2016 at 12:34:51 AM

I don't even care if it gets one or not. I've said my piece. I'm tired of letting you bully me into shit and then guilt-tripping me when I do anything else. It's a thankless job and it sidelines Trip and everyone else in the process every time you do it. You can't ignore other people entirely and say you want nothing to do with them and then say there's nothing to do. And you can't flip your shit at me or anyone else because I don't feel like investing my entire afternoon in clipped, formal small talk again. And you definitely can't go "Gosh some huge jerk that I won't name ditched me" in a public place where you know I'll see it and expect zero backlash. So tough fucking titties.

WonderSquid Since: May, 2012
#474792: Jan 10th 2016 at 12:35:43 AM

oh hey you're still awake

hold on lemme read this

ramuf Electric Heart from the Shining Throne Since: Jan, 2013
Electric Heart
#474793: Jan 10th 2016 at 12:37:10 AM

Sorry that it took so long I can only type so fast on my tablet.

WonderSquid Since: May, 2012
#474794: Jan 10th 2016 at 12:40:30 AM

Alright. I'll actually talk properly about this when my head isn't killing me because at this rrate I'm gonna have to call in sick, but I will say a couple things.

The first, unless Julie is glued to the floor you can just have her follow someone to continue the conversation. I'd prefer it actually, not just from you but in general.

And the second, you need to work on the snippy thing. I'm really glad you're trying because I do think once you get a few kinks worked out in the execution you've got really strong characters, but all of that will mean nothing if we have to be so cagey around you. Just get off the computer for a minute. Or keep a tab open with a shitty flash browser game or something, anything to calm down or at least distract you from it momentarily. Something to keep you from mashing F-5 in a panic.

That's all the srs I can muster for today, I think. And I'm on my phone so we're about tied in the speed department anyway.

edited 10th Jan '16 12:41:08 AM by WonderSquid

WonderSquid Since: May, 2012
#474795: Jan 10th 2016 at 12:42:30 AM

I'll address the whole rut issue tomorrow since that one's complicated.

ramuf Electric Heart from the Shining Throne Since: Jan, 2013
Electric Heart
#474796: Jan 10th 2016 at 12:46:34 AM

The cagey thing is the problem.

At least, right now, I think that's the problem.

Or one of them.

I'm not thickheaded enough to not notice when people're walking on eggshells and then I feel all weird and then everything goes to hell.

Because other people feel like I'm made of glass and I feel like I'm being prodded by ten foot poles. None of which is conducive to any sort of normal, rational, sane discourse.

Which then feeds into the rut issue peripherally because I don't feel like people like it when I try to make waves, so I stay small and inoffensive.

Which doesn't really help much either tbh.

Because being as inoffensive as possible means offending everyone in the process.

WonderSquid Since: May, 2012
#474797: Jan 10th 2016 at 12:49:57 AM

That's true.

But it is 3 am and I'm crabby so I'm gonna put a pin in this one and discuss it with you in an actually helpful manner tomorrow.

ChrissieMcNapkins bruhonetta from the traphouse Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
bruhonetta
#474798: Jan 10th 2016 at 8:21:19 AM

it is morning

I live in a constant state of fear and misery.
Azure Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist from The World Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist
#474799: Jan 10th 2016 at 9:15:37 AM

I am in despair.

PM box is Closed, Indefinitely Friend Code: 3368-4181-6850
ramuf Electric Heart from the Shining Throne Since: Jan, 2013

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