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Trip Since: Mar, 2012
#473276: Dec 30th 2015 at 11:36:28 PM

actually lemme spoiler undertale rant real quick

why does everybody portray the fallen child/chara as an inhuman monstrous demon who was always a genocidal monster

yeah the video tapes show us that chara wasn't exactly a level-headed kid but you have to remember chara is "you", and by going genocide route you give "you" so much power that he stops being "you

and since you just made "you" literally slaughter an entire underground nation he's not exactly going to be all sweet and kind

Imca (Veteran)
#473277: Dec 30th 2015 at 11:36:30 PM

Alrighty, thanksies.

Again sorry about that, and now off to bed I go. >.<

eldritchseer all the loose ends from Cocytus Since: Mar, 2019
all the loose ends
#473278: Dec 30th 2015 at 11:50:04 PM

i mean she did try to compel asriel to murder innocent townspeople, that's not sympathetic

i don't understand a lot of this chara apologism.

Trip Since: Mar, 2012
#473279: Dec 30th 2015 at 11:52:56 PM

i have no doubt that chara was Not A Very Good Person, regardless of reasons

but i've seen people try to pin the whole genocide debacle on him

when it's really only the fault of the player

also

>she

edited 30th Dec '15 11:53:11 PM by Trip

eldritchseer all the loose ends from Cocytus Since: Mar, 2019
all the loose ends
#473280: Dec 30th 2015 at 11:56:24 PM

don't you goddamn faux-greentext me, you little shit

death of the author, frisk and the c-fucker look feminine to me, i'll use female pronouns

of course you're responsible for the genocide run, but i've seen a little too much chara apologism and it angers me

Trip Since: Mar, 2012
#473281: Dec 30th 2015 at 11:59:37 PM

fight me 1v1 fig newton

fair enough, it's just that in a game where absolutely everyone has a good side to them, having a character suddenly introduced as "PURE SATANIC DEMON UNAMBIGUOUS EVIL" feels reeeeally jarring, even IF it's the geno run

eldritchseer all the loose ends from Cocytus Since: Mar, 2019
all the loose ends
#473282: Dec 31st 2015 at 12:00:19 AM

i mean at the end of geno they are basically satan, like holy shit, that's fucking incredible

SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
Problem Child
#473283: Dec 31st 2015 at 12:02:37 AM

Doesn't Chara specifically say that you, the player, not only awoke them with your crazy violence, but actually made them worse than they were when they were alive? Chara was always a bit of a shithead morally speaking, but was able to appreciate a family life and so on. With the players help, they possess Frisk and then get so twisted that they end the world.

What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?
Trip Since: Mar, 2012
#473284: Dec 31st 2015 at 12:04:03 AM

did they?

i wouldnt know because i'm not a GENOCIDAL FREEEEEAK

eldritchseer all the loose ends from Cocytus Since: Mar, 2019
all the loose ends
#473285: Dec 31st 2015 at 12:05:15 AM

i'm not continuing because i don't want a page of spoiler'd text or else someone will see it and then violently shit themselves with rage or something

Azure Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist from The World Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist
#473286: Dec 31st 2015 at 12:05:54 AM

This is where a time line would come in handy. But I'm pretty certain that yeah Chara only went full demon after he died. I always like to think that Chara had a really crappy life in the human world, and thus hated humans but cared about the Monsters.

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HilarityEnsues Since: Sep, 2009
#473287: Dec 31st 2015 at 12:07:14 AM

From my reading of the story, it seems to me Chara killed themselves with the assumption that Asriel would merge his soul with them and create Flowey. This was presumably so they could gain power from the souls of the monsters and other fallen humans to attack the humans on the surface, since there's multiple mentions in the story about how much they, for whatever reason, hate humanity.

I don't know if this is just a crazy fan theory no one else shares but I've always assumed this is roughly how other people understand Chara and the main reason they believe them to be such a dick. The few details we're given about them just make them seem more sinister than a simple precocious kid, at least to me.

edited 31st Dec '15 12:08:31 AM by HilarityEnsues

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#473288: Dec 31st 2015 at 12:15:08 AM

I dunno about Flowey. I think Flowey was a accident, because Asriel says he got stuck like that because he resisted Chara. It seems more like his end goal was Asriel Dreemur but with Chara in charge.

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SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
Trip Since: Mar, 2012
#473291: Dec 31st 2015 at 12:50:44 AM

fight me fagtits mcjackoff fucknershcneff

actually i wonder how many cuss words i can put into a name while making sure it still sounds like a name

eldritchseer all the loose ends from Cocytus Since: Mar, 2019
all the loose ends
#473292: Dec 31st 2015 at 1:09:27 AM

try it

go where no an has everedddddf gone gebfroe

SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
Problem Child
#473293: Dec 31st 2015 at 1:10:57 AM

Writing up my first adventure for Edge of the Empire. It's fun.

What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?
Trip Since: Mar, 2012
eldritchseer all the loose ends from Cocytus Since: Mar, 2019
all the loose ends
#473295: Dec 31st 2015 at 1:13:42 AM

deustchland uber alles

Trip Since: Mar, 2012
#473296: Dec 31st 2015 at 1:17:20 AM

i am hunting for more alice avvies from the dream diary game

is my sleep deprivation the reason i keep looking back and forth through these

could it be i hardened and can no longer appreciate art

or are these all just shit

probs the third

bed 4 reel

eldritchseer all the loose ends from Cocytus Since: Mar, 2019
all the loose ends
#473297: Dec 31st 2015 at 1:21:37 AM

you have to look deeper

cut it open

let the liquid spill forth, plentiful, like a torrent of rain

megarockman from The Sixth Borough (Experienced Trainee)
#473298: Dec 31st 2015 at 5:59:50 AM

Happy New Year to Papua New Guinea

The damned queen and the relentless knight.
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#473300: Dec 31st 2015 at 6:38:23 AM

Happy new year!


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