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ThanatoSeraph ARE WA DARE DA from The Land Down Under Since: Feb, 2012
ARE WA DARE DA
#470076: Dec 11th 2015 at 11:20:28 PM

it was not

i think my computer refuses to connect to the server

oh well

It's been a real pain that apparently this computer just doesn't like the home internet setup and will only work for some things

every other internet connection is fine but not this

so this might not be able to be a thing unfortunately

HilarityEnsues Since: Sep, 2009
#470077: Dec 11th 2015 at 11:22:54 PM

the one thing that seems questionable to me is that frisk is only the eighth human to fall into the underground

i don't remember the timeline but it was supposedly 1000 years or so between the start of the human/monster war and the start of the game

are you telling me that in all that time no other kid has fallen into some hugeass hole in the ground

kids get into dumb shit all the time, that number should be way higher but it isn't because of the plot point with the barrier and the seven human souls i guess

edited 11th Dec '15 11:24:52 PM by HilarityEnsues

Azure Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist from The World Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist
#470078: Dec 11th 2015 at 11:27:26 PM

Oh that. Honestly its really hard to say, but personally I think its unlike Toby to over look a detail like that.

The best explanation I think of is that there's a lot of weird time bullshit going on in the background.

Specifically that after Flowey is born, he continuously reset the timeline and fucked around with it until he lost the power to do so, probably by the player coming in and unkowungly wresting control of the timeline from him.

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ThanatoSeraph ARE WA DARE DA from The Land Down Under Since: Feb, 2012
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#470079: Dec 11th 2015 at 11:30:03 PM

@Hil: there is that too, but I'm a little more forgiving toward that, because it doesn't really draw attention to itself, and the point is made that most people don't go climb the creepy haunted mansion

@Jam: see I tried to rationalise it as that but Flowey only came to being quite recently, and RESET doesn't let him go back to the beginning of time or anything

Pretty much all of the problems I have are about the timeline pre-Flowey, the things that are "set in stone" so to speak

Lilqueendaisy A chill feller from Not Earth Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
A chill feller
#470080: Dec 11th 2015 at 11:32:27 PM

I'll join Lunar!

LOVE IS STORED IN THE AXOLOTL!
Azure Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist from The World Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist
#470081: Dec 11th 2015 at 11:40:39 PM

Normally I'd just say. "Yeah that's just an oversight, it was pretty stupid" But its Undertale which makes me want to think that there's an actual answer out there.

But all I have is weird theory mongering. It might be one of those things that only Toby has the answer to and won't tell us.

Like the door he put in just to fuck with us.

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WonderSquid Since: May, 2012
#470082: Dec 11th 2015 at 11:42:54 PM

But you can open that door. It's where the white dog lives, and it unlocks if you complete the end credits without getting hit.

also someone post in the rp or i will whine even louder in a text medium where you can't hear it

ThanatoSeraph ARE WA DARE DA from The Land Down Under Since: Feb, 2012
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#470083: Dec 11th 2015 at 11:44:17 PM

it's just surprising to me that I don't see anyone else talking about it at all I guess

and I guess I don't have the trust at you do, or rather, I feel like I can pick what the actual mystery stuff is supposed to be like Gaster

also that door has an actual reason IIRC if it's the one you're talking about

if you dodge all the backer names you get a hint that maybe one day toby will patch in a bonus boss against the dog, then again maybe not

HilarityEnsues Since: Sep, 2009
#470084: Dec 11th 2015 at 11:48:53 PM

i think i can kind of explain monsters not knowing what humans look like despite chara falling into the underground so recently

monsters appear to judge what a human is by at least some characteristics that aren't related to physical appearance. I say this because Asgore doesn't even consider the idea that you could be a human when you approach him on the genocide route. it's not just a metaphorical "you're so evil you aren't even human anymore" - you could make that argument for the comments sans makes about you - but Asgore is clearly confused on a much more basic level

given what a colossal douche Chara is, they probably just made their image of what a human is more confused than it already was

edited 11th Dec '15 11:49:59 PM by HilarityEnsues

Azure Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist from The World Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist
#470085: Dec 11th 2015 at 11:50:13 PM

See I never actually wanted to know what was behind the door.

And I hate you for telling me.

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WonderSquid Since: May, 2012
#470086: Dec 11th 2015 at 11:50:57 PM

whoopsies

hey norm you should post in the rp

for reasosn

Rivux same old me from [a jump to the sky turns to a rider kick] Since: Aug, 2010
same old me
#470087: Dec 11th 2015 at 11:58:09 PM

haaaaaaaaaaaah i ain't getting in my critiques it's too late for that

got it done though

mario is red, i am green, i try my best, but everyone's mean
Azure Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist from The World Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist
#470088: Dec 12th 2015 at 12:02:09 AM

Well anyway, what Hil says is pretty good. Monsters can look like anything so identifying a person based solely on how they look is probably not a thing in the Underground.

Also to fully answer the question of how everything fits in the time line, we have to ask. How long is after Chara and Asriel die does A) The next human come along, and B) Flowey comes into being.

But its 2AM so I must sleep.

edited 12th Dec '15 12:03:00 AM by Azure

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WonderSquid Since: May, 2012
#470089: Dec 12th 2015 at 12:04:06 AM

I've always guessed it's about ten years, maybe. Decent enough timeframe for seven other people to wind up down there, long enough so camcorders are still a thing.

Rivux same old me from [a jump to the sky turns to a rider kick] Since: Aug, 2010
same old me
#470090: Dec 12th 2015 at 12:08:49 AM

aw bitchin we got a critique extension

i'm in the cleeeeeear

mario is red, i am green, i try my best, but everyone's mean
eldritchseer all the loose ends from Cocytus Since: Mar, 2019
all the loose ends
#470091: Dec 12th 2015 at 12:10:22 AM

there's no necessary indication that undertale doesn't take place a good deal into the future

Trip Since: Mar, 2012
#470092: Dec 12th 2015 at 12:15:02 AM

i am ALMOST FINISHED with bloodborne

ThanatoSeraph ARE WA DARE DA from The Land Down Under Since: Feb, 2012
ARE WA DARE DA
#470093: Dec 12th 2015 at 12:16:57 AM

i still have certain issues that I don't thikn the above explanations cover but I must vanish now and it's not a super important conversation anuyway

Trip Since: Mar, 2012
#470094: Dec 12th 2015 at 12:54:58 AM

holy shit is from doing it

is a souls game going to have a good final boss

SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
Problem Child
#470095: Dec 12th 2015 at 4:57:01 AM

Aaaaagh sorry, Persia and I were engaged in thermonuclear war.

Aaaand you're all gone.

What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?
LatverianBadger Calamity is a housewife from gacha hell Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Calamity is a housewife
#470096: Dec 12th 2015 at 5:43:22 AM

what shall i have to do to get into the current rp plot

"Shake the dust." - Anis Mojgani
Boxen whatever he can Since: Jan, 2013
whatever he can
#470097: Dec 12th 2015 at 8:00:20 AM

kill me thats what

dead devotion
ChrissieMcNapkins bruhonetta from the traphouse Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
bruhonetta
#470098: Dec 12th 2015 at 8:03:31 AM

hi

I live in a constant state of fear and misery.
Boxen whatever he can Since: Jan, 2013
whatever he can
#470099: Dec 12th 2015 at 8:04:08 AM

no

i just woke up and i need to work in 30 minutes

everything hurts

dead devotion
LatverianBadger Calamity is a housewife from gacha hell Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Calamity is a housewife
#470100: Dec 12th 2015 at 8:07:53 AM

@Box: Done.

edited 12th Dec '15 8:08:05 AM by LatverianBadger

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