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ThanatoSeraph ARE WA DARE DA from The Land Down Under Since: Feb, 2012
ARE WA DARE DA
#448851: Sep 12th 2015 at 9:45:27 PM

@Norm: "There aren't character limits while a plot is on"

We've always had at least some limits. To the point where it was in the rules. It's not like the FG where if you really really wanted to you could RP 9 characters at once (it'd suck prolly but still)

Apologies if it's not a typo.

@Jam: I don't think anyone is asking for totalitarian GM rule though.

Hell, even the fact that we're discussing this instead of it being "Duff and Riv want less people, half your characters gotta die" kind of shows that imo.

f1r3lemon Duty First from All aboard the fun train Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Get out of here, STALKER
Duty First
#448852: Sep 12th 2015 at 9:46:12 PM

Aight man

всегда верен
WonderSquid Since: May, 2012
#448853: Sep 12th 2015 at 9:46:20 PM

Rule 0 in any RP: GM is God. Do not blaspheme and spread the false word of God.

edited 12th Sep '15 9:46:31 PM by WonderSquid

SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
Problem Child
#448854: Sep 12th 2015 at 9:46:23 PM

@Pyro: Yeah, I meant the opposite of that.

edited 12th Sep '15 9:46:44 PM by SR3NORMANDY

What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?
Boxen whatever he can Since: Jan, 2013
whatever he can
#448855: Sep 12th 2015 at 9:46:49 PM

@bcom: pretty sure

@space: about letting us know ahead of time or???

dead devotion
Bcom Since: Jun, 2014
#448856: Sep 12th 2015 at 9:46:51 PM

Unfortunately Spazz, that's the golden rule.

Rule Zero: this stuff is entertainment. The end objective should always be to have fun, and the GM's mission should be to give the players a fun time in exchange for following the golden rule

edited 12th Sep '15 9:47:39 PM by Bcom

Rivux same old me from [a jump to the sky turns to a rider kick] Since: Aug, 2010
same old me
#448857: Sep 12th 2015 at 9:47:09 PM

@imca: fenrir is fine

in this instance he's used more like a tool because imca does not have a physical body, so that gets a pass

mario is red, i am green, i try my best, but everyone's mean
Imca (Veteran)
#448858: Sep 12th 2015 at 9:47:13 PM

Rule Zero is have fun.

[up] Gotcha Riv, thanksies.

I still may swap her, I am debating.

It is nice to have options though you know?

edited 12th Sep '15 9:47:49 PM by Imca

WonderSquid Since: May, 2012
#448859: Sep 12th 2015 at 9:47:56 PM

bah

Golden rule is have fun, rule zero is gm is god

poo on you

thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#448860: Sep 12th 2015 at 9:48:31 PM

yeah

'cause if it's a big enough issue where it'd affect a majority of players, then it'd be in the signups anyways

UN JOUR JE SERAI DE RETOUR PRÈS DE TOI
HilarityEnsues Since: Sep, 2009
#448861: Sep 12th 2015 at 9:48:36 PM

no rules, just right

outback steakhouse

Boxen whatever he can Since: Jan, 2013
whatever he can
#448862: Sep 12th 2015 at 9:49:42 PM

o ok

dead devotion
thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#448863: Sep 12th 2015 at 9:50:44 PM

i just wanna say i'm glad with how this is going so far, this is nice and civil

UN JOUR JE SERAI DE RETOUR PRÈS DE TOI
Bcom Since: Jun, 2014
#448864: Sep 12th 2015 at 9:51:11 PM

anyway basic point to that is this: the gm should always have the final authority. But the GM should also always focus on making things more fun for the players and should go with decisions that head in that direction.

if the GM doesn't, then there's a problem and grounds for a revolution and beheadings with a guillotine.

there's a social contract between the players and the GM: "we'll submit to your authority in exchange for a fun time". either side breaking this contract is pretty much a guarantee for disaster.

foxmccloud4387 Since: Mar, 2011
#448865: Sep 12th 2015 at 9:51:45 PM

I agree with Bcom's assessment.

Imca (Veteran)
#448866: Sep 12th 2015 at 9:52:40 PM

I just want to say the GM is god rule falls a bit flat when....

Uhhh, this is not about a statment here, we are no where like this.

But I have witnessed RP's get a mutiny before, where the old GM was forcibly ousted from there possition.

SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
Problem Child
#448867: Sep 12th 2015 at 9:53:06 PM

The fact is, the GM knows where the cracks are and what is coming up and what is likely to put a pin in their plans, while the players don't have the full scope. So, I think there should be a good amount of trust placed in the GM, even when it seems the decisions aren't necessary.

What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?
Trip Since: Mar, 2012
#448868: Sep 12th 2015 at 9:53:40 PM

i could make a hitler joke but but imcan nazi that being a good idea

WonderSquid Since: May, 2012
#448869: Sep 12th 2015 at 9:53:55 PM

The only time we've ever had that happen here was with Strigon when he went off the deep end and railroaded everyone to death. Apart from that I haven't seen much call.

No matter how shitty things get here, I doubt it'll be as bad as Strig's thing.

Bcom Since: Jun, 2014
#448870: Sep 12th 2015 at 9:54:15 PM

I know norm. I'm just saying there's a difference between that and a legitimately bad GM. as long as it's in the name of fun then I'll be cool with it

SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
Problem Child
#448871: Sep 12th 2015 at 9:54:22 PM

Strig puts everything into perspective.

[up]Oh, I wasn't disagreeing, I agree that there needs to be an understanding. I was just adding my own insight on top of it.

edited 12th Sep '15 9:54:58 PM by SR3NORMANDY

What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?
WonderSquid Since: May, 2012
#448872: Sep 12th 2015 at 9:55:19 PM

But at the same time

remember how half the reason Deluge fell apart and why Hawthorne almost collapsed before it even started was 'cause you guys didn't trust me to wipe my own ass let alone make important decisions that needed to happen?

you have to trust that the GM knows what they are doing

edited 12th Sep '15 9:55:51 PM by WonderSquid

Imca (Veteran)
#448873: Sep 12th 2015 at 9:55:34 PM

We dealt with Strig once.

We ended up nuking his character.

With an actual nuke.

[up] I remember hawthorn, but after finishing that I think it could have been solved by entering an NDA with the slighted parties.

It would have fixed it for Stone and I personally, and I know for myself at least, interaction is more fun then twists.

edited 12th Sep '15 9:56:40 PM by Imca

Boxen whatever he can Since: Jan, 2013
whatever he can
#448874: Sep 12th 2015 at 9:56:21 PM

was it the only way to be sure

dead devotion
SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
Problem Child
#448875: Sep 12th 2015 at 9:56:30 PM

[up][up][up]What Spaz said. That plot saw a rapid drop in faith, and cooperation, which hindered Spaz which caused the faith to drop further. Vicious cycle.

edited 12th Sep '15 9:56:39 PM by SR3NORMANDY

What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?

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