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ramuf Electric Heart from the Shining Throne Since: Jan, 2013
Electric Heart
#426476: Jun 28th 2015 at 7:46:58 PM

Forcing an admission would be punitive and petty. I don't want that.

I think altering the scene so it's less taking-advantage-of would be the best approach.

Retconning it entirely is drastic, I think. I think it should be changed, not scrapped.

SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
Problem Child
#426477: Jun 28th 2015 at 7:49:28 PM

@Space: Oh, I absolutely understand that, and Ramuf's entitled to that. I've just never been of the opinion that players have to always be in agreement regarding the actions of their characters, morally speaking.

@Ramuf: I really do think that changing it ultimately up to Jam and Daisy and whether they feel the situation merits that kind of action. If they don't, then you'll have to agree to disagree. I do feel that some of your choices of language have been a little overly inciting, what with the rape comparisons. At the same time, Jam needs to understand where you are coming from, and I think he does.

edited 28th Jun '15 7:53:21 PM by SR3NORMANDY

What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?
Azure Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist from The World Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist
#426478: Jun 28th 2015 at 7:51:13 PM

I am mostly objecting to this accusation that it was "rapey". I'm right now, not sure what you mean by that but those kinds of words instantly make things escalate to places no one wants to go.

I will edit out the line where Fen mentions Luis can't lie.

edited 28th Jun '15 7:51:32 PM by Azure

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ramuf Electric Heart from the Shining Throne Since: Jan, 2013
Electric Heart
#426479: Jun 28th 2015 at 7:55:10 PM

She didn't do this before when he could have conceivably said otherwise. She chose now because she knew that he had no way of saying that he didn't love her.

That's the crux of why I said that.

Bcom Since: Jun, 2014
#426480: Jun 28th 2015 at 8:02:27 PM

yeah that was definitely a bad way to phrase it.

would have been better to say she asked because she knew he couldn't lie so she could finally get a 100% honest answer.

SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
Problem Child
#426481: Jun 28th 2015 at 8:02:47 PM

That decision is yours, Jam.

I'm just concerned that we're needlessly crossing a threshold here and turning an IC ethic issue into an OOC issue when situations far worse than this one have been resolved quietly IC. The thought of another player feeling pressured out of an IC decision never sits well with me. But I understand that these morally grey things can be case-by-case depending on the person, and Ramuf's entitled to his objections.

What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?
Azure Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist from The World Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist
#426482: Jun 28th 2015 at 8:06:01 PM

I still don't appreciate the use of such words. I'm sorry but please refrain from them in future. That is all I'm asking.

And I've already said I don't mind editing the scene a bit.

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ramuf Electric Heart from the Shining Throne Since: Jan, 2013
Electric Heart
#426483: Jun 28th 2015 at 8:11:36 PM

Alright. I'll refrain from using them. I didn't want to, but I didn't feel like anyone was taking me seriously. I'll admit that was something I shouldn't have done.

That works.

Lunarcat Star Child from I'll be right here Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Star Child
#426484: Jun 28th 2015 at 8:14:05 PM

I'm going to the emergency room

I'm sorry

All our wishes can come true
MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Azure Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist from The World Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist
#426486: Jun 28th 2015 at 8:15:45 PM

Holy crap Lunar!

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ChrissieMcNapkins bruhonetta from the traphouse Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
bruhonetta
#426487: Jun 28th 2015 at 8:15:59 PM

are you okay?

I live in a constant state of fear and misery.
Lunarcat Star Child from I'll be right here Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Star Child
#426488: Jun 28th 2015 at 8:16:00 PM

I fainted

I lost all my vision and I got really dizzy and now I have to get blood drawn and I'm really scared of needles

All our wishes can come true
Bcom Since: Jun, 2014
#426489: Jun 28th 2015 at 8:16:50 PM

don't worry lunar, the doctors will only be doing it to help you. just don't look at it, helps a lot.

edited 28th Jun '15 8:17:06 PM by Bcom

SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
Problem Child
#426490: Jun 28th 2015 at 8:16:52 PM

Oh dear.

It'll be alright, Lunar. You are with medical professionals.

What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?
MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#426491: Jun 28th 2015 at 8:16:53 PM

shit i hope it's nothing too serious

thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#426492: Jun 28th 2015 at 8:17:02 PM

it's gonna be alright lunar

take care, okay?

UN JOUR JE SERAI DE RETOUR PRÈS DE TOI
WonderSquid Since: May, 2012
#426493: Jun 28th 2015 at 8:17:41 PM

Just look away while they're doing it and get distracted by something else. You barely even feel it when it goes in.

HilarityEnsues Since: Sep, 2009
#426494: Jun 28th 2015 at 8:17:46 PM

Damn. Hope everything's ok, Lunar.

Lunarcat Star Child from I'll be right here Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Star Child
#426495: Jun 28th 2015 at 8:18:58 PM

It's happened before but this was the longest it's lasted

I was in the shower but luckily my mom was there and she pulled me out before I could fall on anything

So now my parents are driving me to the emergency room

I don't know what happened, but I have to go now, thank you

All our wishes can come true
thestonedog78 Princess Warlock from from deep space Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Princess Warlock
#426496: Jun 28th 2015 at 8:18:59 PM

Lunar need only hurt if you think about them. So don't think about them.

They can't for the life of them understand why nobody liked being ruled by a group of manic depressive demigods - 4chan
Lilqueendaisy A chill feller from Not Earth Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
A chill feller
#426497: Jun 28th 2015 at 8:20:14 PM

Just don't look and think about other things and it will be fine.

LOVE IS STORED IN THE AXOLOTL!
ThanatoSeraph ARE WA DARE DA from The Land Down Under Since: Feb, 2012
ARE WA DARE DA
#426498: Jun 28th 2015 at 8:25:51 PM

I hope it's nothing too serious Lunar, and good luck with the needles.

LatverianBadger Calamity is a housewife from gacha hell Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Calamity is a housewife
#426499: Jun 28th 2015 at 8:36:12 PM

I share everyone's sentiments and hope it's nothing serious. Take care of yourself, Lunar.

"Shake the dust." - Anis Mojgani
Rivux same old me from [a jump to the sky turns to a rider kick] Since: Aug, 2010
same old me
#426500: Jun 28th 2015 at 8:41:44 PM

lunar

mario is red, i am green, i try my best, but everyone's mean

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