@Space: Oh, I absolutely understand that, and Ramuf's entitled to that. I've just never been of the opinion that players have to always be in agreement regarding the actions of their characters, morally speaking.
@Ramuf: I really do think that changing it ultimately up to Jam and Daisy and whether they feel the situation merits that kind of action. If they don't, then you'll have to agree to disagree. I do feel that some of your choices of language have been a little overly inciting, what with the rape comparisons. At the same time, Jam needs to understand where you are coming from, and I think he does.
edited 28th Jun '15 7:53:21 PM by SR3NORMANDY
What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?I am mostly objecting to this accusation that it was "rapey". I'm right now, not sure what you mean by that but those kinds of words instantly make things escalate to places no one wants to go.
I will edit out the line where Fen mentions Luis can't lie.
edited 28th Jun '15 7:51:32 PM by Azure
PM box is Closed, Indefinitely Friend Code: 3368-4181-6850That decision is yours, Jam.
I'm just concerned that we're needlessly crossing a threshold here and turning an IC ethic issue into an OOC issue when situations far worse than this one have been resolved quietly IC. The thought of another player feeling pressured out of an IC decision never sits well with me. But I understand that these morally grey things can be case-by-case depending on the person, and Ramuf's entitled to his objections.
What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?Oh dear.
It'll be alright, Lunar. You are with medical professionals.
What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?It's happened before but this was the longest it's lasted
I was in the shower but luckily my mom was there and she pulled me out before I could fall on anything
So now my parents are driving me to the emergency room
I don't know what happened, but I have to go now, thank you
All our wishes can come true

Forcing an admission would be punitive and petty. I don't want that.
I think altering the scene so it's less taking-advantage-of would be the best approach.
Retconning it entirely is drastic, I think. I think it should be changed, not scrapped.