It's funny the things that can trigger a moment of enlightenment.
My Mom briefly mentioned the LGBT movement over dinner and her opinion of it (her being extremely devout in the Catholic faith; she was of course against it). When I spoke up about my disagreement with her, she was legitimately upset. She asked me to read up on just why the Church opposed gay marriage. I was legitimately upset too. I was upset that she'd take something like this so seriously so as to have this look in her eye; a look that said she was disappointed in me.
I'm still a little hurt over that, but I suppose it would be a sin to stay angry at her forever.
After 2 hours of straight reading, I can't say that my understanding of the issue is whole and complete. But I suppose I can say that I understand why the Church is opposed to gay marriage.
It all falls onto the practice of Celibacy, of the sinful nature of fornication (the act of sex outside of marriage), that celibacy is morally right and fornication is morally wrong.
I'll admit I'm a person with weak faith, and I'm still trying to find the side on which I lie. But I can now understand why this means so much to my Mom.
I still disagree with her, all things considered. But my only hope is that this disagreement will not cause any sort of rift between us.
I pray that my petty anger for her be kept in check, and am thankful that it has died down now.
"Shake the dust." - Anis MojganiMy priest (the awesome one) has been speaking out more and more against marriage equality, and it's starting to get to me. I knew that he'd have to keep to the line of the Catholic Church and that he's a product of a different time and range of experiences to myself, but I know over a dozen gay friends and colleauges and all of them deserve marriage. They are spitting the dummy over what should be a non-issue over the sake of a sense of ethics thousands of years old.
And I loathe the concept of celibacy, since it basically disempowers people over their right to be comfortable in their own body and the inherent decision-making therein (with an unfair emphasis on the purity of women at that).
Honestly, most of the time I'm barely Catholic. Don't be ashamed to draw your own personal boundaries if it will make your relationship with God a more comfortable one. God is so far above our bickering and dogma. The omnipotent master of all existence isn't going to cry if I masturbate.
What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?Aye, the argument of what marriage technically is, is basically the sticking point as far as I'm aware.
I know people are mostly against gay marriage because of the sanctity of what marriage means to them.
I.e a covenant between a man and a woman, before god.
(Though, to me, then it just becomes an argument of definitions. Almost like becoming an ontological argument of its' own.)
1.5 imperial gallons of tea were consumed during the writing of this post@ Box: Consider it as: the Church's problem with the LGBT movement is the disregard of Celibacy.
@ Norm: I'm agreeing with you there bro. But in a world where beliefs are so varied and often conflicting, I can't condemn belief in the necessity of celibacy either. I disagree with it, but, yeah, you know the drill.
Thanks man. And I hope the awesome priest speaking out against gay marriage doesn't make him any less awesome in your eyes. Maybe a little, but don't forget all the other reasons he's awesome.
The articles I read up on cited the Bible's definition of marriage: y'know, "man and woman, for the purpose of procreation". But reading it, it does come off as rather loose.
edited 23rd Jun '15 7:34:09 AM by LatverianBadger
"Shake the dust." - Anis MojganiYou gotta just let some of that be man. That argument in particular really is not worth getting riled up over. Infact people getting upset over it is exactly why I view both sides as extremely counter productive in their methods.
Chritianity has centuries of tradition that people have held on to, because it makes them feel secure. So when something like LGBT comes along and tries to get people to accept something they've been told is gonna bring ruin for years of course they're gonna be ultra defensive.
And LGB Ts, don't want to conform to something that's not them, which they have every right to. But they're also super defensive and feel that everything is an attack on their way of life. I mean come the fuck on. So someone didn't put a gay character in their video game/movie/book, that doesn't mean they hate gays, it just means they didn't put one in.
Really most homosexual characters suck ass because people aren't actually writing them because they want to but just to please whiners.
Really both sides have this sort of "with us or against us" mentality. So the only way to win is to disengage from it.
PM box is Closed, Indefinitely Friend Code: 3368-4181-6850Yeah.
I think that is another problem with this debate.
Christians have sort of adopted marriage as being fundamentally a Christian thing.
When marriage pops up in all sorts of cultures.
The concept of possession might also be a thing here, because then their definition of marriage springs up- meaning, in a way, it can be viewed as people going directly against dogma.
And I'm with Jam here, a bit.
1.5 imperial gallons of tea were consumed during the writing of this postI think you're generalising a fair bit, Jam, but I see your points.
What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?Not a rant but; DMC 4 SE unlocking in 1 hour.
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"Shake the dust." - Anis MojganiANYWAY
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