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ramuf Electric Heart from the Shining Throne Since: Jan, 2013
Electric Heart
#304501: Aug 16th 2014 at 6:01:07 PM

Yeah, I've done that before.

It doesn't usually work.

Rivux same old me from [a jump to the sky turns to a rider kick] Since: Aug, 2010
same old me
#304502: Aug 16th 2014 at 6:01:38 PM

I usually just set my characters to do stuff until someone bugs them or something catches their eye. If there doesn't seem like there's anyone free to try and interact with I just hang back and do something else until there is.

mario is red, i am green, i try my best, but everyone's mean
gameboy3 The Faker from Michigan Since: Dec, 2011
The Faker
#304503: Aug 16th 2014 at 6:02:09 PM

My habit's adding to the problem, then, Mobile? Damn, I thought that sort of thing would help avoid it.

And it's so easy when you're evil... This is the life for me, the Devil tips his hat to me...
Trip Since: Mar, 2012
#304504: Aug 16th 2014 at 6:05:06 PM

I do that too, though I've been getting better at making an active effort to interact.

Of course, that's a problem when it's OOC for a character, like Suzy.

thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#304505: Aug 16th 2014 at 6:05:59 PM

making an active effort is probably a good thing for people to be doing, in general

not just with people they tend to rp with

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MobileLeprechaun (: from Grayrock, TX Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
(:
#304506: Aug 16th 2014 at 6:06:47 PM

@GB: Nah, that's not what I meant, I mean the clique phenomenon you described. No, having people in an accessible location helps.

I don't wanna come to a premature conclusion, but I do think there's stagnation as far as willingness to play with characters that you don't normally play with, and I think a conscious effort on everyone else's part to branch out would help.

I don't want this to get forgotten again, guys. That is a very hurtful thing, to be told that efforts will be made to help and then get left in the dust like that. Not trying to be the blame person here, as I don't think anyone's trying to exclude, but this problem should have been resolved long ago.

edited 16th Aug '14 6:06:57 PM by MobileLeprechaun

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gameboy3 The Faker from Michigan Since: Dec, 2011
The Faker
#304507: Aug 16th 2014 at 6:08:13 PM

Oh, that's what you're referring to.

...I'm not doing that as far as you guys can tell, am I?

And it's so easy when you're evil... This is the life for me, the Devil tips his hat to me...
thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#304508: Aug 16th 2014 at 6:13:03 PM

Guys?

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Rivux same old me from [a jump to the sky turns to a rider kick] Since: Aug, 2010
same old me
#304509: Aug 16th 2014 at 6:15:03 PM

I don't think you are. You're not avoiding characters to play with others as far as I know.

Really, I don't have a problem playing with characters I don't normally play with, but I still need an IC reason for doing so, like what Trip said.

Shizuka isn't going to go up to someone and ask how the weather's going if she's not somewhat acquainted with them. I've considered and have dropped in different characters for more interaction every now and then, but if I don't feel like playing them or can't get in character after a while, it's hard for me to keep playing them.

mario is red, i am green, i try my best, but everyone's mean
MobileLeprechaun (: from Grayrock, TX Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
(:
#304510: Aug 16th 2014 at 6:18:57 PM

@GB: Not you, no. It's mostly something that more senior members tend to do. It's kind of a naturally occurring phenomenon, but that doesn't mean it can't cause problems.

Building off what Riv said, some character types are not hella conducive to initiating interaction. Usually, if I am playing a character like that, and I want to initiate an interaction, I have something happen that will draw the attention of the character I'm trying to interact with. It could be simple as bumping into them or needing assistance with a task. Something small like that can start something larger. I've seen it happen a lot.


Guys, I'm not gonna let this discussion die until we start actually working towards a solution. This deserves your attention as much as anything else in this thread does, and I'm not about to let yet another attempt to get this thing resolved go limp and ineffectual.

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Boxen whatever he can Since: Jan, 2013
whatever he can
#304511: Aug 16th 2014 at 6:19:06 PM

space also makes a valid point

dead devotion
thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#304512: Aug 16th 2014 at 6:24:16 PM

Guys, I'm not gonna let this discussion die until we start actually working towards a solution. This deserves your attention as much as anything else in this thread does, and I'm not about to let yet another attempt to get this thing resolved go limp and ineffectual.

This. This this this this.

I know you guys are there, even if you're not saying anything. Look, this is really important, and we can't just solve this alone.

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MobileLeprechaun (: from Grayrock, TX Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
(:
#304513: Aug 16th 2014 at 6:24:31 PM

Look, any, any insight from any one of you would be valuable. This is something that has the potential to affect any one of us. This is far from the first time we've had this happen. Please, any input you have, put 'er here.

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Rivux same old me from [a jump to the sky turns to a rider kick] Since: Aug, 2010
same old me
#304514: Aug 16th 2014 at 6:25:26 PM

I really don't know what sort of solution can be made out of all this that isn't just "we need to try and be more reactionary to things" and "we should try to be more active in making interactions."

If somebody's doing something that's fishing for interaction, try and react to it as IC as you can if your character is free.

mario is red, i am green, i try my best, but everyone's mean
ChrissieMcNapkins bruhonetta from the traphouse Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
bruhonetta
#304515: Aug 16th 2014 at 6:28:31 PM

Pretty much what Riv says since I can't formulate my opinion into coherent thought.

I live in a constant state of fear and misery.
Boxen whatever he can Since: Jan, 2013
whatever he can
#304516: Aug 16th 2014 at 6:30:29 PM

If there is something I have to say, I don't really know how to say it.

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thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#304517: Aug 16th 2014 at 6:30:34 PM

i see you all

posting in the fg

i know you're there

your opinion matters please say something

[up], [up][up] take your time

this is important

edited 16th Aug '14 6:31:11 PM by thespacephantom

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foxmccloud4387 Since: Mar, 2011
#304518: Aug 16th 2014 at 6:32:22 PM

I'll back up Riv's statement. He said it better than I could.

ramuf Electric Heart from the Shining Throne Since: Jan, 2013
Electric Heart
#304519: Aug 16th 2014 at 6:32:41 PM

If this is because Julie and Tallis are boring, poorly written, unlikable, or unapproachable, you can just say it.

Because that's what it feels like, at this point.

MobileLeprechaun (: from Grayrock, TX Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
(:
#304520: Aug 16th 2014 at 6:33:06 PM

Riv's statement does seem to hold weight. I feel iffy about calling it quits there, though, because we have done so in the past only to have this issue repeat itself ad-infinitum.

[up]I don't believe this to be the case, but if everyone could make it clear whether they agree or disagree with this statement, that would be great.

edited 16th Aug '14 6:34:38 PM by MobileLeprechaun

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megarockman from The Sixth Borough (Experienced Trainee)
#304521: Aug 16th 2014 at 6:33:23 PM

This time around I'm feeling pressured because I have a vacation coming up and won't be around but in general, honestly, I don't know. Maybe the amount of plot and backstory I've tacked on is turning people off?

The damned queen and the relentless knight.
thespacephantom Jamais vu from the smallest church in Saint-Saëns Since: Oct, 2009
Jamais vu
#304522: Aug 16th 2014 at 6:34:21 PM

maybe if we got everyone to promise they'd try to be at least consciously aware of it???????? or, or something??

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Boxen whatever he can Since: Jan, 2013
whatever he can
#304523: Aug 16th 2014 at 6:34:42 PM

boring, poorly written, unlikable, or unapproachable

They aren't really any of those things, though.

dead devotion
ChrissieMcNapkins bruhonetta from the traphouse Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
bruhonetta
#304524: Aug 16th 2014 at 6:37:36 PM

Well, I always feel turned away a little when a big plot thing happens (not aimed at you specifically mega, more at most events). That's more of my fault since my characters can't really do anything and really has nothing to do with this conversation so I'll stop now.

Ram, they're great characters. Honestly.

I don't know how we can be even more aware of it. Like, we know it went on, we're talking about it now, and we will most likely talk about it in the future.

edited 16th Aug '14 6:38:08 PM by ChrissieMcNapkins

I live in a constant state of fear and misery.
Bcom Since: Jun, 2014
#304525: Aug 16th 2014 at 6:37:53 PM

I agree with Riv's statement, if I'm guilty of this then I'll try to change it since gespenst is supposed to be one of those guys that would just randomly walk up and ask how someone is

On another note: i like tallis and julie, I find it fun to interact with them when I do

edited 16th Aug '14 6:38:35 PM by Bcom


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