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Prometheus136 What's eatin' you, chief? from Yoknapatawpha County Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
What's eatin' you, chief?
#287776: Jul 12th 2014 at 8:48:27 PM

I dig it

I always like story in video games if it actually MELDS with gameplay instead of constant exposition and cutscenes

That's why I admire Dark Souls so much

It shows so much and tells very little

and so much is up for interpretation, like fairy tales and myths of yore

War is God.
Azure Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist from The World Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist
#287777: Jul 12th 2014 at 8:50:13 PM

Phoenix Wright is mainly done through moving sprites. It has you go from place to place and click around rooms in order to find useful items. Then has you control Phoenix's actions during the trials telling him what to say, and do, and using the items you found to your advantage. The one who plays PW is a player. Not a reader.

This kind of thing is called a Point And Click Adventure.

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MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#287778: Jul 12th 2014 at 8:50:24 PM

you'll enjoy journey I think

i have a lot of respect for thatgamecompany

they always make artistic games based around story and feelings

but they're humble enough to remember they're making fucking video games

and actually utilize the medium they're using to tell their stories

[up] are the items you find physically needed in order to solve puzzles

edited 12th Jul '14 8:51:27 PM by MacDuffy

Prometheus136 What's eatin' you, chief? from Yoknapatawpha County Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
What's eatin' you, chief?
#287779: Jul 12th 2014 at 8:52:03 PM

I may try it, but like I said, I typically buy with length, content, and replayability in mind

But hey, Bioshock is different cause I really only replay the game because... I like it and the game is so clever in a lot of ways that I uncover more details about the story than the last time.

Ken Levine may be somewhat pretentious, but he's certainly ambitious and I wouldn't call him a horrible writer.

But hey, if Journey is like that, as in, I just replay just to get a better sense of the art and to better interpret it, then I can dig it.

War is God.
MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#287780: Jul 12th 2014 at 8:53:22 PM

you will

did you think infinite was not-great too

edited 12th Jul '14 8:53:34 PM by MacDuffy

Azure Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist from The World Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist
#287781: Jul 12th 2014 at 8:54:04 PM

Yes.

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SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
Problem Child
#287782: Jul 12th 2014 at 8:54:49 PM

PHOENIX WRIGHT IS A VISUAL NOVEL STYLE GAME WITH POINT AND CLICK GAMEPLAY ELEMENTS.

There, argument over.

What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?
MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#287783: Jul 12th 2014 at 8:56:10 PM

do you need to use an item you find with another object in order to progress in the story

@norm: you're not stopping this fight

blood will be shed

edited 12th Jul '14 8:56:35 PM by MacDuffy

Rivux same old me from [a jump to the sky turns to a rider kick] Since: Aug, 2010
same old me
#287784: Jul 12th 2014 at 9:00:21 PM

PHOENIX WRIGHT IS A VISUAL NOVEL STYLE GAME WITH POINT AND CLICK GAMEPLAY ELEMENTS.

mario is red, i am green, i try my best, but everyone's mean
MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#287785: Jul 12th 2014 at 9:01:40 PM

i demand absolute victory

i will not be satisfied until i stand over my foe's broken and battered corpse

Prometheus136 What's eatin' you, chief? from Yoknapatawpha County Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
What's eatin' you, chief?
#287786: Jul 12th 2014 at 9:02:48 PM

Actually no, I like Infinite a good deal.

I do see its flaws.

I find that Ken bit off more than he could chew with the complications of race and social class in the game that... never really get much other than a trite look over.

Also, it's batshit that the game OUTRIGHT TELLS ME that Daisy is no different from Comstock

well EXCUSE ME, but that seems like something I interpret myself.

Plus, that's bullshit. Daisy is murderous and crazy, whereas Comstock is murderous and crazy.... and horribly bigoted.

um... something seems iffy about that

ohhh nooo the revolutionaries are pissed that they've been treated like sub-human filth for so long how dare they be angry

War is God.
Azure Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist from The World Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist
#287787: Jul 12th 2014 at 9:03:38 PM

What Norm and Riv said.

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MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#287788: Jul 12th 2014 at 9:04:48 PM

they retcon that in burial at sea

in a lousy way

[up] you coward

edited 12th Jul '14 9:05:11 PM by MacDuffy

ChrissieMcNapkins bruhonetta from the traphouse Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
bruhonetta
#287789: Jul 12th 2014 at 9:08:21 PM

burial at sea is

like

odd

I live in a constant state of fear and misery.
MobileLeprechaun (: from Grayrock, TX Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
(:
#287790: Jul 12th 2014 at 9:08:52 PM

OC DO NOT STEAL WORSHIP THE STARS

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Prometheus136 What's eatin' you, chief? from Yoknapatawpha County Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
What's eatin' you, chief?
#287791: Jul 12th 2014 at 9:09:24 PM

Also

The ending of the game

while CRAZY

actually.... kinda makes sense

kinda

I've played through it again and I notice the subtle cues

ahh... that's the sign of good storytelling, that a replay/re-read/re-watch can reveal subtleties you missed the first time.

Plus, Booker is an asshole. The game acts like he's... affable to a degree.

Um... I'm sorry, he slaughtered people at Wounded Knee. Just a brief read-over on what happened at Wounded Knee makes it highly evident that it was FUCKING INHUMAN AND DESPICABLY SADISTIC.

the game is just like

ohhh i regret what i've done oohhh brooding anti-hero noire bullshit please feed me your sympathy

Fuck you. The game acts like the selling of his daughter was his most mortal sin.

FUCK YOU.

War is God.
MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#287792: Jul 12th 2014 at 9:10:40 PM

actually that game's ending really fell to pieces for me

because infinite realities

Azure Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist from The World Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Fist
#287793: Jul 12th 2014 at 9:10:50 PM

Well whatever you want to call it. Its still a fun work that

Here some ducks.

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Prometheus136 What's eatin' you, chief? from Yoknapatawpha County Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
What's eatin' you, chief?
#287794: Jul 12th 2014 at 9:12:13 PM

The game really should have left the racial and societal implications out of it

Because it really just comes across worse than they intended it to

War is God.
MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#287795: Jul 12th 2014 at 9:13:02 PM

no no I don't mean that

i mean the concept of infinite alternate realities

causes the game's ending to make no sense

edited 12th Jul '14 9:13:20 PM by MacDuffy

ChrissieMcNapkins bruhonetta from the traphouse Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
bruhonetta
#287796: Jul 12th 2014 at 9:13:44 PM

any alternate reality stuff in endings

is kinda suck

I live in a constant state of fear and misery.
Prometheus136 What's eatin' you, chief? from Yoknapatawpha County Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
What's eatin' you, chief?
#287797: Jul 12th 2014 at 9:15:08 PM

[up][up]Yes, I was just complaining about the game's half-assed "social commentary"

The infinite realities thing is...

ehh... convoluted

I don't fully get it even after my second playthrough

IDK, maybe I need to pay attention more, but it does seem needlessly complex.

Like I said before, Ken may be pretentious, but he sure is ambitious. Of course, that ambition tends to blow up in his face more often than not.

[up]Infinite handled it in a way that's... pretty interesting

I was thinking about it for a while afterwards.

edited 12th Jul '14 9:15:36 PM by Prometheus136

War is God.
SR3NORMANDY Problem Child from N/A - In constant flux Since: Jul, 2012
Problem Child
#287798: Jul 12th 2014 at 9:16:39 PM

I dunno if it was half-assed.

I mean, they based a lot of the racial stuff on real rhetoric and posters and slogans and such. They did their research.

What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?
GameSpazzer The Beta Male from Against! The! Wall! Since: Jun, 2010
The Beta Male
#287799: Jul 12th 2014 at 9:16:44 PM

"once upon of time"

MY SOUL IS DARK BUT MY HAIR IS COLORFUL — Brahian Pokémon Alchemist
MacDuffy from Enies Lobby Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#287800: Jul 12th 2014 at 9:18:14 PM

but they barely ever use any of it beyond sticking a sign in your face every once in a while

no racial slurs are uttered throughout the game, and the worst case of abuse you ever see is potentially throwing a single baseball at an interracial couple

@Prom: if you think about it enough

you realize it's kind of dumb and not very well thought-out

edited 12th Jul '14 9:18:57 PM by MacDuffy


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